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Oct 13, 2008 08:55 PM

Help with a GCS question...


Basically we have a pt coming by helicopter who was involved in a single-car MVA. Something ignited in the passangers seat and the pt was burned. He has a GCS score of 8 at the scene. He was intubated and is being ventilated. HR-120, BP-80 systolic. He has bleeding from an open perineal wound where he experienced blunt trauma from the hydraulic cylinder. EMS reports he has femoral pulses, but no radial. He is cool, pale, and diaphoretic. There is blood coming from under the pts pelvic area. His pre-burn weight is 160.

Question: Discuss the GCS of 8 and the meaning/implications on this score.


I know what the scale is and I have the scale in front of me but I am having trouble being specific with this question...please help!


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from PICURN74
Old Oct 13, 2008, 09:27 PM

Default Re: Help with a GCS question...
The scale is 3-15 with extremes at both ends. In our facility 10 and below is a sure way to get the million dollar workup

http://www.trauma.org/archive/scores/gcs.html
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from Daytonite
Old Oct 13, 2008, 09:31 PM

These sites include some information on the interpretation of the score:You might consider posting your questions on one of these student forums in order to get better responses:
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Old Oct 14, 2008, 07:06 AM

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General rule= less than 8? IN-TU-BATE!
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from GOMER42
Old Oct 14, 2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by locolorenzo22 View Post
General rule= less than 8? IN-TU-BATE!
That pretty much sums it up
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from patwil73
Old Oct 14, 2008, 09:10 AM

Default Re: Help with a GCS question...
Originally Posted by clmsngrl82 View Post
Basically we have a pt coming by helicopter who was involved in a single-car MVA. Something ignited in the passangers seat and the pt was burned. He has a GCS score of 8 at the scene. He was intubated and is being ventilated. HR-120, BP-80 systolic. He has bleeding from an open perineal wound where he experienced blunt trauma from the hydraulic cylinder. EMS reports he has femoral pulses, but no radial. He is cool, pale, and diaphoretic. There is blood coming from under the pts pelvic area. His pre-burn weight is 160.

Question: Discuss the GCS of 8 and the meaning/implications on this score.


I know what the scale is and I have the scale in front of me but I am having trouble being specific with this question...please help!
My guess would be that he was:

2 -- opens eyes to pain
2 -- incomprehensible words (screaming a lot)
4 -- withdrawel from pain

Essentially he is in a lot of pain from the burns, bleeding leads to shock (low bp) no radial pulse from low bp (good yardstick when unable to get bp if you got a radial it is usually 80 or greater, femoral is 70 or greater).

He could have been intubated for burns to the neck causing swelling and obstructing airway or tachypnea (elevated respiratory rate) and they thought he would poop out. Although you can intubate for GCS less than 8 you don't have to. I responded to a MRT today with a GCS of 3 - heavily oversedated, pt did not move at all to any stimuli. Couple of narcan and romizacon later and we were up to 13.

Hope this helps

Pat
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