Held Down and Forced to Take The FLu Shot

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Allright guys, here is my problem:

My mom works as a CNA?CMA in a nursing home. The nursing home is forcing people to take flu shots this year. My mom has never taken a flu shot, she is just a strong believer in not taking it. She knows that I think this is a stupid attidute, but I also respect her right to say no to the shot.

After about a month of trying to bully people into taking thier flu shots with saying that people won't get their pay check, etc. After a couple of calls to the labor board that got fixed pretty fast.

So here is their new tactict: Call people into their office, physically hold them down, and give them the shot.

Of course my mom is terrified. My advice to her was this: As soon as one of the administrators touches her to try to hold her down I told her to call 911. I told her to be sure to let them know that if they try to physically force her to take the flu shot. If they as much as touch her to try to hold her down to take that damn thing she will call 911 and press assault and battery charges against them. I told her to let them know that they have 3 options:

A: Leave me alone, I'll sign a paper that you offered it and I declined.

B: Fire me and we will take the legal route for wrongfull termination.

C: Touch me, give me the shot and I will call 911 and press charges.

So fire away and give me your opinion. What can she do?

Specializes in SICU.

The more I think about this, the more I believe that this whole story has got to be exaggerated or contrived... I just can't believe that any facility would actually PIN SOMEONE INTO A CHAIR and inject them with a vaccine. I'm just... I don't know... my brain just refuses to accept this.

Surely our country's citizens (i.e. the employees at that facility) know that this is illegal? Surely??

Someone tell me this is some sort of hoax or joke. :uhoh21:

Specializes in Jack of all trades, and still learning.

I'm shocked, it goes beyond the pale. You do as much as you can for your mum, and get the beggars!!!

Specializes in Med/Surg, Stepdown, ICU, Emergency Room.
Just to clear something up for me, in your initial post you say your mom is a "CNA/CMA" . ... so who is the she you are speaking of above? A nurse? Is your mom a nurse or a CNA/CMA? Who did the holding? I'm a bit confused.

My mom is a CNA/CMA. When I was talking about Nurse I meant the DON. She has to have an "order" from someone to administer a flu shot to anybody. So as far as I am concerned the MD will get reported also.

The facility is in a small town in western Oklahoma. Tiny town, only place in town. It's a 30 minute drive to the next nearest nursing home. If people loose their jobs they will have a hard time finding employment somewhere else.

You don't know these crazy people that run the place there. They have no morals or ethics. I am not making this scenario up. It is about all I can do not to take the drive to where my mom works and raise hell myself. I was pacing up and down my house when I first heard about it. I am now at a point of really screwing them over legally.

A lot of the people are mad that they were physically held down and given the shot. Put they are afraid to call 911. They don't realize that they were assaulted. I try to explain to these people that what the DON did was legally no different from jumping them in the parking lot and kicking in their face. She injected a foreign substance into them against their will. I'm pretty sure that by Monday there will be news involved.

The 3 nurses have been reported to the Oklahoma Board of Nursing. The BON will be closed until Tuesday, and I'm trying to have at least one of the people that were assaulted step forward by then and press charges. If they go after my mom, she WILL make the first move to call 911, have them respond to the nursing home, and press charges. Once the others see her go through with it, I hope that they will get the guts to add to her charges. If the 3 nurses have charges pending, the BON will have to act. Like I said, I hope to have this case on the news by then.

Like I said before, I believe that everybody should have a flu shot, they do have a good benefit. But if anybody physically forces a shot onto anybody, much less my mom, there will be hell to pay. She has never ever taken the flu shot, so for all they know they could hold her down and give her the shot only to watch her go into shock and die from an allergic reaction.

You guys will hear more about this, that I will promise.

Let them go ahead and give it and then sue.

She won't have to work. :roll:roll:roll

Specializes in Med/Surg, Stepdown, ICU, Emergency Room.
Let them go ahead and give it and then sue.

She won't have to work. :roll:roll:roll

It's not just that she does not want to, she is really really affraid. She reacts to a lot of meds. Our grandma got a flu shot and got really sick, had to go to the hospital. It's as much about really being afraid of that shot as it is about princible.

Specializes in PACU.

That is not acceptable. I seriously hope it's some sort of prank (on the part of the staff against the OP's mother), but fear that it might be true. If it were my mom, I'd go and hide in the place with a video camera so I could record her beating the tar out of the staff attacking her. :trout:

Definitely keep working all of the angles to get those nuts prosecuted or at least have their licenses revoked.

It's not just that she does not want to, she is really really affraid. She reacts to a lot of meds. Our grandma got a flu shot and got really sick, had to go to the hospital. It's as much about really being afraid of that shot as it is about princible.

That was meant as a joke.

Specializes in Med/Surg, Stepdown, ICU, Emergency Room.
That was meant as a joke.

No problem, just tired. Been sitting up researching everything I can to make our legal case on monday.

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

Fight, fight, fight!! I really think that all of the nurses here in this forum should send positive thoughts, prayers, light candles (whatever you believe in), to render energy and strength to the OP, her mother and all of the employees there that have already suffered much humiliation and the reduction of their rights as humans. As another poster said, what happens to the residents if THEY refuse??

See, I wish for the managers to get fired moreso than the employees getting the repercussions, because it was as I thought...a small town with little resources for seeking other employment. These are health care workers for God's sake! How can they take care of people if they are literally afraid for their own lives and well being?????

Specializes in Med/Surg, Stepdown, ICU, Emergency Room.

Interesting find:

According to the CDC Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System there have been 417 deaths after taking a flu shot.

Thats all I need to know. As far as I am concerned they can face charges of Assault and Battery with a Deadly Weapon.

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
Interesting find:

According to the CDC Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System there have been 417 deaths after taking a flu shot.

Thats all I need to know. As far as I am concerned they can face charges of Assault and Battery with a Deadly Weapon.

:yelclap::yelclap::yelclap::smiley_ab That's right...keep the fight going!!

:deadhorse Beat them until the white meat shows!! Freaking bums!!!:angryfire:angryfire

Specializes in Operating Room Nursing.
Thats all I need to know. As far as I am concerned they can face charges of Assault and Battery with a Deadly Weapon.
:rotfl: Is it just me???
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