head nurse interview - page 9
I wanted to see what you all thought of this. I have had three interviews already for this position. I have two more interviews on Tuesday with another 30 people. Then I have another one with the... Read More
Sep 9, '03Karen I should have listened to you.......I am to start on the 15th for this role. They keep changing their mind and calling me about holes in the schedule and I need to cover them after I start. Yes I need to then no I do not need to fill them. I am now considering just taking the staff nurse afternoon position they originally offered me as they are driving me nuts. I would make 7,000 more per year plus a sign on bonus which I would not get with the management job. In the staff nurse role I can also get overtime pay rather than being salaried.
They are driving me nuts.
Sep 9, '03Have these folks never heard of perdeim and float pools and agency?
From the sound of things they have enough staffing needs to justify and support instituting any and all of these alternatives.
Using you should be an ABSOLUTE last resort.
I am just wondering if you are experienceing this much frustration before you start what will it be like after?
There is a reason this position was open. There was a reason they have not kept someone in it. There is a reason no one on the floor wanted it, there is reason it has been open for a year, and there is a reason you heard some bad things about this facility from travelers.
Just wondering out loud. Take it for what it is worth or ignore it if it doesn't seem right to you.Last edit by Agnus on Sep 9, '03
Sep 9, '03THanks Angus. The floor has three travelers that have been there over one year. They also use agency but the hospital is asserting pressure to stop that. I am for sure getting more of a bird's eye view on why the position was open for over a year.
Sep 9, '03Renerian, every time I read one of your posts on this subject, I see more red flags! I would have told them to go pound sand a long time ago.
You think maybe the excessive # of interviews was in part to weed out the ones who would set limits? Whether it's you or somone else hired as the unit's manager, the higher ups there will never let that person be a "manager".
You haven't even started working there, and they're already making you crazy. What do you think it will be like when they really get their claws into you ( and control your paycheck!)???
Sep 9, '03Be careful, Ren. Be WISE. You've been disappointed too many times in the past.. I'd hate to see you get the shaft once again.
Do what feels right in your gut. Truly wish you all the best.
Hugs to you. :kiss
Sep 9, '03Run from that managers job, sense that no mater what you do won't sattisy them. Up to you if you take the afternoon position. Just wonder how much mandation going on in this unit. Expext at leat a rough couble of months.
I'm just getting out from under an availance at my position due to new computer system and laptops for visiting RN's being implimented ---STILL DON"T HAVE COMPUTER BUGS WORKED OUT! I knew the facility and have same staff with new part timer's and now one year latter able to relax. Expect at least 6 months of sleepless nights, I'm affraid.
What is your GUT saying??? Listen to it. No ne else has taken this position so maybe starting at a staff level would be in your best interest, at least financial reward for your time, talent and troubles.
Sep 9, '03Jemb, karen and Jnette,
I talked with the unit manager director today and turned down the position due to the changes at every turn I make without even haven started yet. Needless to say they were angry at me and told me I could no longer have the afternoon position so I guess it was meant to be. I can say I prayed hard for several weeks and interviewed at other places. I did get a call for an SDC position and I accepted that to start Friday.
Thanks everyone and I sure learned a lesson about long interviews and asking more questions. Even though I asked a ton I did not get the correct information I needed.
Everyone has been very helpful and kind to me and I appreciate your all sharing your wisdom with me.
Karen going live is a trip isn't it? I did help one agency do that as a consultant and your right there are always bugs. Good luck with that venture. In the long run the nurses will mostly like it. I know in my experience I did lose a few nurses only because they were intimidated with computers. I am glad I no longer have that problem.
Take care everyone,
Sep 9, '03I am sorry to read that things continued to go downhill with this particular job, Renerian ... but happy to see that you are getting out of it before you got in too deep.
May your next attempt at finding a good fit work out much better for you,
Sep 9, '03Renerian,
I am glad that you made a positive decision to move on. It was a real warning that they kept making additional changes and demands on you, before you even started.
My last post was trying to be positive because it sounded like they had met your requirements. They obviouslyweren't willing to do that and I'm glad that you will not be working with them. They obviously are not an organization with whom you would wish to pursue a career.
Good Luck to you! I admire your professional work ethic and integrity. I am sure that you will find a position eventually which meets your ideals. Enjoy your new position as you reflect on this issue and move on. Kudos to you for being true to yourself and your profession by not allowing yourself to be placed in such a situation.
Sep 10, '03I was feeling for you. I know how frustrating and discouraging it is when you jump through all the hoops and think you have found a great job only to find out it is straight from you know where. It is a very lonely feeling too.
So when you said that you have acccepted another position I felt relieved for you.
Interesting how they said you could not have the afternoon job when you turned down that one. Hmm. Me thinks they realized that you were no one they could trample on in any position.
Sep 10, '03Thanks angus. It is very agonizing. I think I am down now too as I loved my job I was in and was getting in a groove. I hate lay offs. I do feel lost and loney. Wah wah right. I am trying to pick myself up off the floor but it is so hard.
Thanks for caring,