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No. 80
from Roy Fokker
Old Nov 06, 2009, 03:14 AM

Default Re: Have recent generations forgotten correct spelling and grammar?
Recent generations have "forgotten" spelling and grammar because the prior generation didn't insist on it.


cheers,
Roy (awaiting everyone to jump up now and post "but I always insisted with my kids!" etc.)
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No. 81
from Zookeeper3
Old Nov 06, 2009, 05:06 AM

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Fifteen years in the profession, with a good comprehension on the importance of accurate charting, I still lack the skill to spell. Simply, for important work I use the spell check before I print out assignments or letters. For things like this, an internet site, I could care less what "impression" others form of me from my lack of ability to spell. What strangers on a blog site think is not a monkey I would ever cary on my back.
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No. 82
Old Nov 06, 2009, 09:10 AM

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Back to my spelling issues...son who is a most dreadful speller, brings home vocab. test with the teacher misspelling words...got to love it...or the quiz I took in Med-Surg yesterday with incorrect spellings & manifestations mixed up for open & closed angle glaucoma...or the quiz that had two grammatically incorrect questions put together and the professor saying that the students should have been able to figure it out...grrrr
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No. 83
from nursel56
Old Nov 06, 2009, 04:33 PM

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I blame flow sheets. I only have to know how to make a "check" mark. Oh, yeah, and sign my name. I also blame the appalling practice of allowing nurses to use cursive writing in their notes!! We learned to p-r-i-n-t very meticulously !! <--- in case anybody missed it, the cursive comment was intended to be mildly sarcastic. I gotta point this out, or I'll have a bunch of people talking about how their cursive writing is 100x better than my printing, etc etc
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No. 84
from november17
Old Nov 08, 2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by landesmummy View Post
Back to my spelling issues...son who is a most dreadful speller, brings home vocab. test with the teacher misspelling words...

Hahahaha my son's teacher last year had the most terrible handwriting. It looked like a 5 year old wrote it. I've got a bunch of his papers I should scan them and post them here just for comedy value.

My daughter this year is in the "gifted" class and it is hilarious because her teacher spells words wrong without fail. The teacher even managed to spell a word on the spelling list wrong a few weeks ago (this is the same teacher that made a point of telling me she got a 4.0 in her masters program at the parent teacher conference).
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No. 85
from chelynn
Old Nov 09, 2009, 12:29 AM

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I think correct spelling, punctuation and grammar are very important. In nursing school we were always taught that these things were especially important in charting. They told us that if you ever have to defend your charting in court they will tear you apart with poor charting.
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No. 86
Old Nov 09, 2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by november17 View Post
Hahahaha my son's teacher last year had the most terrible handwriting. It looked like a 5 year old wrote it. I've got a bunch of his papers I should scan them and post them here just for comedy value.

My daughter this year is in the "gifted" class and it is hilarious because her teacher spells words wrong without fail. The teacher even managed to spell a word on the spelling list wrong a few weeks ago (this is the same teacher that made a point of telling me she got a 4.0 in her masters program at the parent teacher conference).
What did you do about the teacher's errors? I know it's awkward and risky to speak up, but if you let it slide, things will never improve.

Have any of you here spoken up when you've encountered teachers' errors? If not, it's time to do so.

I did with my kids' teachers. They were not happy with me, but it was more important to me that their teachers taught them correctly.
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No. 87
Old Nov 09, 2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CeilingCat View Post
I think students give only what is required of them. Most job applicants give only what is required. And to be fair, some jobs don't reward the articulate workers. Some managers look down on a worker who comes across as too well educated; it makes them feel uncomfortable.

Schools (colleges included) are passing students who cannot write complete sentences. My nursing school dumbs down the program and makes us do lots of busy-work so those who can't do basic math or writing can learn.

The scary thing is that a misspelled word in a patient chart can totally change the meaning of something. IMHO, spelling and somewhat coherent grammar should be as important to Nursing school as the calculations exams.

I'm starting to get the idea that America as a whole has devalued education. People are graduating High School barely able to read. We have parents who parents complain when their kids have homework. Over the semesters, I've watched classmates cheat or drop out when they're challenged. We live in a society that values youth, fun, social interactions, and instant gratification. Wisdom, education, and accuracy are for the nerds and old people, I guess.
Charlotte Iserbyt "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
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No. 88
from sharpeimom
Old Nov 09, 2009, 02:03 PM

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Nursing was a second career for me. My first job was an editorial position with a marketing research company in a very very large city. I spent my days reading and
proofing what clients representing various companies had written about their products.
Most ad executives are tremendously nice people, really know the product inside and out, can quote chapter and verse about the research done, but despite all this, are very poor writers. Some of these MBA holding execs looked down their noses at those of us who "merely edited and rewrote copy" who held MFA degrees instead of MBAs, but . . . guess what? WE knew grammar, rules of correct writing, varying writing styles. etc.

The end result? Despite the fact that I no longer get paid to edit, I unconsciously edit every single thing I read. Kleenex boxes, print on the TV screen, the newspapers I read daily, the dog food bag... Oh . . . and one final thing that keeps me grammar and usage conscious is that I married a humanities professor.

I take the information in a poorly written article online or in print, much less seriously
if it is poorly written.

Kathy
sharpei mom
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No. 89
Old Nov 09, 2009, 02:10 PM

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I have sent notes to my children's teachers and for my professors, it has been mentioned on every single evaluation, the benefits of using spellcheck and a grammatical book...hmmm and I'm still awaiting those results...hopefully for those students below me they will reap the benefits
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