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No. 10
Old Jan 22, 2006, 05:24 PM

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Gosh...thanks again everyone!!!! You guys have a way of always making me feel better about things!!!!! I guess I need to unload things here more often...lol...j/k. Yeah...in the 6 years I've worked on this floor....this has really been the only thing that has "really stuck with me". I am seriously starting to wonder if I have other problems like depression and anxiety...that are hindering my ability to cope with things. I looked up symptoms of depression and anxiety and I matched every one of them....eeeeek. The "taking blame or feeling guilty much of the time" is me to a tee. I have also noticed myself losing interest in things, sleeping all the time,etc. I am also battling some other problems like trying to work with chronic pain from endometriosis and we're dealing with infertility as well. Oh yeah..then I passed out at work the other week and hit my head and needed nine stitches to sew my ear back together..lol. Overall...I'm just feeling sad and worn out...but I don't really think it is work that is wearing me out....it's just a combination of everything. We have very decent nurse to patient staffing ratios..which is great. I may talk to my doctor about getting some treatment for depression and anxiety issues...what do you guys think? I just want to be the healthiest and best nurse I can be...and when things don't go exactly right....somehow i need to learn to let it go....and just go on. Anyways..thanks again everyone...I really appreciate everything..
luv,
snoop'
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No. 11
from heron
Old Jan 22, 2006, 06:31 PM

Thumbs up Re: Haunted by incidents at work/Part II UPDATE
Originally Posted by IloveSnoopy
Thanks Cardiac....
I know deep down that yeah....they are just trying to improve patient care...and that's a good thing...but man...I'm just the type of person that automatically thinks it's all me...u know? I suppose if they thought I was being incompetant or something...they would have let me know about it right away. I don't know why it all bothers me so much....but it does. I am questioning myself as a nurse..and I feeling like that.
Dear Snoop ... don't let this come as a shock, but ... it's not about you!
I want to second what other posters have pointed out: that the retrospectroscope is useful only long enough to pinpoint mistakes that we can avoid in the future ... and from your post, I can't see that you made any. I often tell folks that ask me about nursing that we are moms who went to school (yep, even the guys). We are conditioned to take responsibility for everything that happens to anyone, anytime, anywhere. I am not G-d ... I have minimal control over others' bad decisions. The way I see it ... you were a big part of why this lady survived to be coptered out. What is interesting to me is that, as the main caregiver you were never involved in the process ... could it be that someone wants to downplay the non-response from the docs ... perhaps for risk-management reasons?

Anyway ... you did good!
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No. 12
Old Jan 22, 2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jax
It sounds like you did everything right, but need some help leaving work at work. Playing the "what if " game, and seconding guessing ourselves leads quickly down the road to burn out.
I have had to learn not to bring "work" home, sometimes something sneaks in, but I need to have a home life and a seperate work life.

I agree, over time you will learn to leave work at work, and it's not "all about you". Learn to look at the "big picture" & be thankful that your facility appreciates you as you continue to learn & grow.
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No. 13
from JBudd
Old Jan 23, 2006, 01:38 AM

Default Re: Haunted by incidents at work/Part II UPDATE
have also noticed myself losing interest in things, sleeping all the time,etc. I am also battling some other problems like trying to work with chronic pain from endometriosis and we're dealing with infertility as well. Oh yeah..then I passed out at work the other week and hit my head and needed nine stitches to sew my ear back together..lol. Overall...I'm just feeling sad and worn out...
There is more going on here than the one case, I think this is just the one tipping you over the edge. Yes, do find someone to help you with stress! Smartest thing you can do for yourself. Even if it is "just" debriefing over this one incident, or if it is helping to cope with everything going on in your life, it'll help. Promise And I don't think all those folks told you good things about yourself just to make you feel better, I think they told you the truth, YOU ARE A GOOD NURSE. Find someone to help you reaffirm yourself, because you are worth it! and we need nurses like you.
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No. 14
Old Jan 23, 2006, 02:28 AM

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Your charting reflects everything that you did. You were excellant. A lesser nurse would have dropped the ball on that one and had a bad outcome. I wish I had a pat on the back smiley.
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No. 15
Old Jan 23, 2006, 05:01 AM

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Oh my gosh...thanks again everyone...it really means a lot to me!!! Now tonight..I had a great night at work....(i even got to come home early on call..yeahhhhh). Anyways....yeah...I have been talking to a few people about the incident...including you guys of course...which actually has helped me to feel a lot better. I am still wondering about some depression and anxiety issues though...seriously. I think I may make an appt. and talk to my doctor(the one that I think thinks I'm stupid..lol). I may mention the lady to him and the whole episode and say that it has been really stressful for me...along with my pain, infertility,etc. He's so sweet...I'm sure that he will re-affirm that I did a good job too....but maybe I need to actually hear that from him...it sounds dumb..but that's just where I"m at right now. I am feeling better about the whole thing though...and as time goes by I"m sure it will get even better and soon I'll forget all about it...(which is what I want to do). I must just keep focusing on the things I did right...I monitored closely, called two MDs, involved the house supervisor, was actually the one that discovered this lady was a COPDer and used my critical thinking skills to realize maybe she's in CO2 narcosis versus 'must be the morphine',etc. Anyways.....
Tonight..I had this sweet little man (I had him a few nights last week)...I walked into the room and he grabbed my hand , squeezed it tightly, and said "i'm so glad you're back tonight"...that makes it all worth it to me. Ok....thanks again everyone....you are all great!!!!
hugs,
snoop;
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No. 16
Old Jan 23, 2006, 05:11 AM

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Oh yeah...I failed to tell y'all about that in the initial "story".....the lady had been on 10 liters of o2 via simple mask for hours.....they put it on in the ER..or maybe even in the ambulance. Anyways.....that's what ended up as her main problem. She was a COPDer and that was never mentioned or thought of by the ER doc, ER staff,etc. Orders read "o2 by mask to maintain sats greater than 93% or something like that. This lady was basically unresponsive...anyways....toward morning..I got a quick chance to peek at her charts..(you know how that goes...especially when you are one on one with someone and have other patients too). Anyways..I find somewhere that she's a COPDer and then thought oh my gosh.....what if she's a retainer?That's when I called her usual doc and told him the story and I mentioned the possible retaining thing...right away he's like "oh yeah...she's a retainer"....after all...he sees her all the time..he just knows this. Anyways...once they got her on bi-pap,etc and were able to blow off some of that CO2....she came around. Ok..I just wanted to add that to clarify my above post.
snoop
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No. 17
Old Jan 23, 2006, 07:53 AM
Updated Jan 23, 2006 at 08:02 AM by TypicalFish

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If the OP really felt bad about how she handled the situation, she would not of been so outraged and indignant over the case being used for a rapid response scenario (or would of felt the need to re-post, and lay the "blame" on the ED and the Doc)-if anything she should of been relieved to see that EVERYONE involved in the case was a part of the problem, that it wasn't entirely her burden-it was obvious that she felt that with her status of "Best nurse" she should of been immune to any constructive criticism that everyone involved in this patient's care was given-that makes her original post a bit disingenuous, a bit coy-I think the response that she was looking for, and got was all the "you did great" posts as above. Kind of like asking your someone if you look fat, when you know that you do, because you know that they'll tell you that you look great. It would be crummy to see a case that you were involved in used as a "what not to do"-but if you really and truly felt bad about how you handled it, there would be no self-righteous indignation over it; it would be like "gee, I had a feeling that there was more that I should of done-so my gut feeling was right, next time I'll Know to follow it"-the fact that she was upset enough to complain proves that she didn't really feel that she did anything wrong-or at least not "wrong" enough that she should of been included in the case study-in which I am sure her name was not mentioned....Just my cranky two cents. We all have cases that, for whatever reason, we could of done a better job. No excuses, no qualifying; Just, "Darn, I could of done better"-and learn from it
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No. 18
from gr8rnpjt
Old Jan 23, 2006, 08:53 AM

Angry Re: Haunted by incidents at work/Part II UPDATE
Originally Posted by TypicalFish
If the OP really felt bad about how she handled the situation, she would not of been so outraged and indignant over the case being used for a rapid response scenario (or would of felt the need to re-post, and lay the "blame" on the ED and the Doc)-if anything she should of been relieved to see that EVERYONE involved in the case was a part of the problem, that it wasn't entirely her burden-it was obvious that she felt that with her status of "Best nurse" she should of been immune to any constructive criticism that everyone involved in this patient's care was given-that makes her original post a bit disingenuous, a bit coy-I think the response that she was looking for, and got was all the "you did great" posts as above. Kind of like asking your someone if you look fat, when you know that you do, because you know that they'll tell you that you look great. It would be crummy to see a case that you were involved in used as a "what not to do"-but if you really and truly felt bad about how you handled it, there would be no self-righteous indignation over it; it would be like "gee, I had a feeling that there was more that I should of done-so my gut feeling was right, next time I'll Know to follow it"-the fact that she was upset enough to complain proves that she didn't really feel that she did anything wrong-or at least not "wrong" enough that she should of been included in the case study-in which I am sure her name was not mentioned....Just my cranky two cents. We all have cases that, for whatever reason, we could of done a better job. No excuses, no qualifying; Just, "Darn, I could of done better"-and learn from it

What's up with that? We come here for a safe place to vent, and vent we all do. The support that Snoop received is what we all do for each other every day. This is not an easy job and we all need a safe place to discuss the situation and receive the support we need to go out and do the job another day.
Snoop, don't feel bad, as the poster above mentioned, we all go through these things, but I for one am thankful that I have a place to go to vent.
I had a similar incident happen and to this day, many years later, it still comes back to me. I had a patient react very badly to anesthesia and I spent most of my shift evaluating the situation and calling anesthesia, the surgeon and my supervisor about it. Although the situation got worse over the next few hours, I continually kept all the important people in the loop, and I documented my a$$ off.
The next day I found out that on daylight my documentation was held up as an example of documentation at its finest. I was very proud of myself. but the same day, I found out the family was complaining about the "nurse" who was very rude to this patient.
My head nurse and supervisor both said that the reason they knew it was not me was due to my excellent documentation.
It turned out that the stupid nurse aide was going in when I wasn't around and bossing the patient around and treating him like an unruly child, right in front of the family! When they described her, it was obviously not me, but the aide I worked with and she was disciplined. But I could not help feeling like my good work was discredited by this stupid nurse aide who had no social skills at all.
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No. 19
Old Jan 23, 2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IloveSnoopy
Oh yeah...I failed to tell y'all about that in the initial "story".....the lady had been on 10 liters of o2 via simple mask for hours.....they put it on in the ER..or maybe even in the ambulance. Anyways.....that's what ended up as her main problem. She was a COPDer and that was never mentioned or thought of by the ER doc, ER staff,etc. Orders read "o2 by mask to maintain sats greater than 93% or something like that. This lady was basically unresponsive...anyways....toward morning..I got a quick chance to peek at her charts..(you know how that goes...especially when you are one on one with someone and have other patients too). Anyways..I find somewhere that she's a COPDer and then thought oh my gosh.....what if she's a retainer?That's when I called her usual doc and told him the story and I mentioned the possible retaining thing...right away he's like "oh yeah...she's a retainer"....after all...he sees her all the time..he just knows this. Anyways...once they got her on bi-pap,etc and were able to blow off some of that CO2....she came around. Ok..I just wanted to add that to clarify my above post.
snoop

You FORGOT to tell us???!! My dear, that is the MOST IMPORTANT part of the story!!

YOU SAVED HER LIFE!

...and donchew fergit it!!
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