Good Bye to Nursing for me... - page 16
Well, the start of a new year and I'm kissing nursing good bye after only 5 short months. I graduated in may and started at a hospital in august. My very first preceptor was a nightmare, on my... Read More
Jan 19, '07Quote from nizhonii know how you feel - just at thanksgiving i went through similair with my beloved grandfather while he died and when my grandmother said she was glad i was there and my choice to be anurse was the right one and that i was a good one at that was something id been waiting tohear for yrs!! she tried talking to my dadbut he is still on the fence lol - guess he will have to get sick adn see me take care of him first haha. glad you got that validation - noting could mean more,.,,,Dear Healer27,
at home . . . and yesterday I finally heard these long-awaited words from my mother, who was truly hostile to my choice of nursing as a profession three decades ago: "I'm so glad you made the choice to become a nurse!"
You'll find your niche . . . .
Jan 19, '07Congragulations on your pregnancy. Do not, I repeat do not, let your license lapse. Keep up your CEU's. When that baby gets older and begins school, you just might find yourself looking for a nursing job. Maybe a school nurse where your hours would coincide with your child's school hours or a clinic. So sorry you had terrible mentoring. Not everyone has the ability to nurture and teach and encourage which is what a good mentor/preceptor does.
Jan 19, '07Jeez....after reading about 3 pages, it sounds like the majority of nurses are catty ******s.
I'm male and beginning school next fall. What is wrong with so many of these people who are in a 'healing' profession. GEEZ.Last edit by VivaLasViejas on Jan 20, '07
Jan 19, '07You are not alone. My first experience was in the ICU. My first preceptor was the same way. She was so nasty. Being a formed teacher I couldn't believe that this girl was actually allowed to "teach" new nurses. I ended up speaking to the manager about it. There were actually a few nasty nurses who had just been there too long and were burnt out and were taking it out on the new nurses. Unfortunately, because of the high turnover in ICU there wasn't alot of experienced preceptors to teach. But, I did find a few really nice and smart preceptors that I requested to be with. I simply told my manager that if I wanted to succeed and really learn, then I needed to be precepted by someone who actually liked what they did and actually WANTED to teach me. It ended up working out in the end and I was there for 6 1/2 years. I have now been a preceptor to new nurses for about 3 years now, and always try to remember how I was treated and will never talk to a new nurse or treat a new nurse how I was treated. I see nurses around me treat new nurses bad. There was a quote I heard that ""Nurses eat their young". It is true that there are mean ones, but I promise there are nice ones out there that do want you to succeed and will help you get there. Please don't let a few bad eggs spoil it for you. I know its hard, trust me, I wanted to walk out the door many times! You just need to find the right place. Your first year or two of nursing is going to be hard anyways. You just need to get through it. Good luck!!
Jan 19, '07I fear exactly what you just discussed! I fear not finding my niche within the nursing field, being stressed and unhappy on a regular basis, and unfulfilled. I graduate this May and I only pray that I have a fairly good beginning experience. I'm scared I'll screw up and become sooo discouraged. Plus I'm not sure what area of nursing is right for me!
Jan 19, '07Quote from fuzzieOverworked, burning out, and all the while the 'powers that be' are heaping more duties and responsibilities onto the pile that already exists. There is NO prospect for relief in sight (good enough for you?). Your beginning school next fall. Thats cool. But comment on your observations once you're doing the work -should be interesting to see how your perspective relates then compared to now. The whole "healing profession" thing is pure ideology. When you boil through the fat, its still a job -and it can be a bear at times.Jeez....after reading about 3 pages, it sounds like the majority of nurses are catty ******s.
I'm male and beginning school next fall. What is wrong with so many of these people who are in a 'healing' profession. GEEZ.
I'd be the last person to dissuade anyone from becoming a nurse (hell, I LIKE being an RN, and while there are ogres, I do work with a great bunch of folks on my floor. However, I've floated to 'floors from hell' as well. Ours is a pretty tough floor due to the patient acuity level, but our team works so well together that its not a bad place to be.Last edit by VivaLasViejas on Jan 20, '07
Jan 19, '07To our gentleman friend - I am thrilled that another male is joining the profession of nursing - I believe that men can strengthen nursing - they stand up for their rights much more readily than most women - most of us female nurses feel guilty and do not speak up - we are, after all, in a caring profession! Let me point out, however, that we really aren't catty ******s - there are a lot of great nurses out there; it's just that we often feel overworked and under-appreciated, especially with the way the healthcare system has changed over the years. The nursing profession is suffering an epidemic level of burnout. So, no offense intended, until you've walked a mile in our shoes, don't be too hasty to judge.Last edit by VivaLasViejas on Jan 20, '07
Jan 20, '07Quote from 4daughtersYou and Gromit are right, of course. Believe me when I tell you that I don't feel that way about nurses, in general. I have several nurse friends that are incredible people. I apologize for the flip remark.To our gentleman friend - I am thrilled that another male is joining the profession of nursing - I believe that men can strengthen nursing - they stand up for their rights much more readily than most women - most of us female nurses feel guilty and do not speak up - we are, after all, in a caring profession! Let me point out, however, that we really aren't catty ******s - there are a lot of great nurses out there; it's just that we often feel overworked and under-appreciated, especially with the way the healthcare system has changed over the years. The nursing profession is suffering an epidemic level of burnout. So, no offense intended, until you've walked a mile in our shoes, don't be too hasty to judge.
I am aware (although inexperienced) of many of the problems in the profession today that gromit pointed out. I share in some of those conditions in my job, in addition to the emotions that 4daughters speaks of...overworked and underappreciated! There is NO value placed on those of us who work to CARE for people. Emotional labor is what we do, and there is not one iota of value placed on it...management places the value only in the tasks that we do!Last edit by VivaLasViejas on Jan 20, '07
Jan 20, '07agreed, but when I think of all the hats I've worn over the years (from working in printing -paste-up all the way to running the presses and even a little bindery experience, Paramedic/firefighter (ems) safety coordinator and just before nursing, driving trucks (tractor-trailer)) I can't think of any one job where people appreciated you, or said 'thanks' or anything like that. (I know most would probably point to EMS and say 'what about that one' but the fact of the matter is you are generally only called for bad things. Though I will admit to having received a few kudos, the same is true for nursing). Job Satisfaction, however, I can say that they all had their good sides as well as their downsides. Can't say I've ever gone into a job with the idea that the public I was serving would be greatful -at least that wasn't my reason for entering (grin). But of all the jobs I've done, nursing is probably one of the most difficult to work in. The only one I burned out of was EMS, but that was for a variety of reasons -including my jaded ideals at the time -which were unrealistic and of course reality can be a harsh mistress...
Jan 22, '07here's an easy fix to put your boss and the nasty workers in thier place- get a copy of your medical records and when they start their crap say here - read this and THEN tell me its all in my head............... worked for me anyhow put em quiet in a quick way ( though i will admit then the focus went to " oh she shouldn't even be in nursing cause she cant handle it yada yada- lol - even though i still get my work done before most of them - now that i think about it - guess it doesnt matter lol - the focus just went elsewhere - just somewhere i could handle better- i dont take kindly to people calling me a liar lol -
Quote from deehaverrnjust a couple thoughts
first I hate that saying "nurses eat their young" because it generalizes about all of us and presents a poor image, I try my best to help new nurses and mostly i think it helps, but sometimes you do get someone who thinks they all ready know it all and won't listen to you at all
i think maybe the reason older nurses are mean sometimes is that they are just completely burnt out, and other professions are not overworked to the degree that nurses are..someone used school teachers as an example of being more professional..well i think they don't have to work for 8 or twelve hours straght while standing on their feet and not eating or drinking at all, meanwhile getting grief from all sides
also i know where i work some older nurses are unhappy because we get a lousy 3% raise each year while new staff comes in at a great salary AND a huge hiring bonus, while seniority means nothing
my advice to "goodbye to nursing for me" is to RUN not walk back to school and pursue a different vocation. I wish I had been smart enough to do that, I really enjoy caring for patients (well most of them anyway), however, I am fed up with our nursing organizations and administration which don't even deserve the title of nurses, they don't help us (the bedside nurses) but knuckle under to the business world while we struggle in the trenches, I have worked med surg and obstetrics for over 25 years, now I have injured my back and i'm in constant pain, still working (with supposed light duty which to my hospital means -call for help if you need it) and a complete regular assignment, I'm fighting with workers compensaion just to have the limitations which the doctor ordered (the same doctor the HOSPITAL sent me to) My entire life is a shambles. So now even if I wanted to I really can't get a different job, I can't sit stand or walk for even ten minutes without pain, and nothing treatment wise has helped me, other than narcotics which preclude my working even more, In short, if I had it to do over again, even though I truly believe that I've been an EXCELLENT nurse, I would definitely go into something else. Its not worth being disabled believe me. And if anyone would like to notice..it is now after 4:30 and I am supposed to be at work at 6:30...insomnia is yet another problem caused by my back pain. I have three bulging discs, an annular tear, facet degeneration, spondylsis, etc...
Oh yes, and to support the idea of how nurses treat each other. My nurse manager somehow spread the word to my coworkers that "they can't find anything wrong with her" and "i guess we have to believe her..she says she's in pain" said sarcastically, so that even though my MRI showed significant degeneration and other problems , only a few of my coworkers are supportive of my problems at all, while most think that I am making them work harder to pick up the slack caused by me, I have reported incidences of rudeness and outright hostility to my boss to no effect, I dread going to work and as for my home life,...well on days I work I pretty much am bedridden for the remainder of the day, and I can only tolerate light activity on others, so my husband and my planned 25th anniversary trip is out of the question
So, just let that license go, go back and get a degree in accounting, there are so many things you can do with that and you won't be at risk for infection (i went through months of testing and treatment after getting blood in my eye during surgery despite having a protective facial mask) or injury ( besides my present back injury i was injured before while taking a bed apart for delivery and hurt my neck twice while moving patients and my chest once while moving a patient) And all my hospital does is harass me and help the insurance company in trying to deny my benefits.
Leave now and don't look back. I just called out of work-by the way_ so that will be another demerit. Question.."would it be worse to work when I know I am obviously in no condition to do so?"
Okay enough "streaming conciousness"
Good luck to you.
Jan 22, '07Quote from GromitYeah...it makes all the difference when someone appreciates what you've done for them...... Job Satisfaction, however, I can say that they all had their good sides as well as their downsides. Can't say I've ever gone into a job with the idea that the public I was serving would be greatful -at least that wasn't my reason for entering (grin). But of all the jobs I've done, nursing is probably one of the most difficult to work in.
Nursing is most difficult because of the increasing responsibilities, etc...??
And how do you find your job satisfaction? (Maybe that's a new thread).
After this thread, I'm steeling myself (not yet even in nursing school), but it's been a good reminder that we work with other human beings and that can be the most difficult part of any job.
In my case, I've been fortunate for the past 22 years. Working as a flight attendant you rarely even work with the same people more than a couple of 2 to 5 day trips a month.
The politics is going to be a difficult part of this job, and I don't look forward to it. But being a "mature" person, I know to keep a low profile and be professional...I also know that (partly due to this thread) there are sooooo many options within the nursing profession, that there will surely be somewhere for me. The trick is probably not to have unrealistic expectations.
One thing I'm prepared for...LONG DUTY DAYS! My current job is made of them.
Jan 22, '07Hi everyone,
Again thanks for all the replies, I NEVER expected to get such a huge response.
Alot of you have mentioned going into a different area of nursing which I will consider after the baby. Again I just don't have it in me at this point of time to start somewhere new yet again. But really where can you go outside the hospital with little experience and an associates degree? It seems alot of docs offices these days hire medical assistants not nurses. But if someone can make some recommendations I'd love to hear..
thanks again to all.
Jan 28, '07Quote from fuzzieGood luck with having that kind of attitude in school. You'll need it to survive.:stoneJeez....after reading about 3 pages, it sounds like the majority of nurses are catty ******s.
I'm male and beginning school next fall. What is wrong with so many of these people who are in a 'healing' profession. GEEZ.