Gifts vs. bribes...is there a line?
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This is a discussion on Gifts vs. bribes...is there a line? in General Nursing Discussion, part of General Nursing ... I'd like some input, please, if y'all don't mind. In my clinic, it's not uncommon for some...
by AngelfireRN Sep 23, '12I'd like some input, please, if y'all don't mind.
In my clinic, it's not uncommon for some patients to bring gifts when they come for their visit. A few even brought my OM and I baby presents. It's been the norm since I've been here.
Recently, though, we've had a couple that were...stringy?
One newer patient brought in some beautiful tomatoes and set them on our lab counter while I was drawing their blood. I remarked, "Oh, what gorgeous tomatoes!" , only to have the patient snatch up the bag, pin everyone there with a withering look and snap, "They're NOT for you!". Said patient proceeded to then hand me the bag, along with a sheaf of papers. The stack was a d/c summary if a friend, and would I give Doc the tomatoes, compliments of the patient, and also work the friend in ASAP?
Another happened in one day, and presented us with a clock...they noticed ours had stopped, they said. Oh, and could we pretty please bend clinic protocol and do just one eensy thing for them?
I know some hospitals and clinics have policies against gifts and such...but would love to hear ideas on this. How to prevent the bribery without insulting those that just bring things to be sweet?
Thanks!Last edit by Joe V on Sep 25, '12
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http://allnurses.com/showthread.php?t=788171©2013 allnurses.com INC. All Rights Reserved. - Sep 23, '12 by RNsRWeYucky situations! I've been fortunate in that the only gifts that come our way come without strings. My facility frequently has repeat patients, very common actually, and every now and then someone will bring a pie, cookies, bagels, that sort of thing. We always appreciate it and have never once had someone then demand a favor.
In the case of the tomatoes, I think I would have taken the bag and the papers and told the patient I'd get them to the doc when I had a chance, but not sure when that might be....or if she knew you could easily get them to the doc, might still have said "I'll be glad to give these to her but I can't say when she'll fit in your friend. We'll see what we can do...later". Maybe as a way of making it clear that the gift is nice, but there can be NO expectation of reciprocation as a favor, you know?
And the person who gifts you a clock and then wants special consideration, well....if it's no big deal, you can make it SEEM like a big deal and throw them a bone.....or, if it IS a big deal, just say "sorry, wish we could". Keeping the two events--the clock giving and the demand for favors--entirely separate.Hygiene Queen likes this. - Sep 23, '12 by ajr31I agree. There must be a line between just being nice and bribery. People talk a lot and if you give special consideration to one patient with a gift and not to the other patient word gets around and rumors spread quickly. I think it would be best to let patients know that everyone is given the same consideration, no matter what.
Hope this helps,
AjrRNnbakes likes this. - Sep 24, '12 by classicdamea gift comes after, a bribe before. Anything with strings attached is not a gift. Just my view.
- Sep 24, '12 by amoLuciaI've always been uncomfortable accepting any kind of individual gift for something that I do - I feel what I do just goes with the job. Soem employers haave strict rules prohibiting accepting gifts, and yet others have nothing to dissuade it.
I try my absolute most to turn down any gifts, but every once in a while, it is all but impossible to decline without offending someone's feelings (this usually occurs with foreigners or very elderly family members). So I'll accept graciously and eventually I'll regift or donate it back to the Recreation/Activity Dept, most esp if it's money that can be used for the community benefit. Of course, edibles are usually welcomed by all staff! - Sep 24, '12 by Asystole RNThere are two types of gifts (or bribes) that can be of concern in healthcare. The first of which is a gift from a patient or their family. Regardless of the monetary value or nature of the gift, the willful receipt of such is unprofessional, regardless if the gift is given to a specific individual or unit. Although I am sure that we all appreciate it when a patient or family thanks us, we should not encourage them to tip us, which is essentially what it is. We provide our services to the patient without the anticipation of, nor desire, to obtain a reward for our service beyond our contracted reimbursement from our employer. To do anything else violates the nurse-patient relationship.
Gifts from a vendor typically represent a conflict of interest and are generally illegal according to the federal anti-kickback laws which have been around since 1972, in various forms. Typically, it has been interpreted by most facilities that a gift of a “nominal value” is acceptable. It should be noted that the various federal laws do not differentiate between nominal or substantial reimbursement. Receiving a gift from a vendor, no matter how small, is likely to sway the staff to recommend that product or service if only that the gift reminds the staff of the product or service. - Sep 24, '12 by Asystole RNQuote from classicdameA gift is a nice way to say tip. Accepting "gifts" creates a culture of tipping and thus insinuates that better service or care will be provided in the expectation of a gift.a gift comes after, a bribe before. Anything with strings attached is not a gift. Just my view.
- Sep 24, '12 by amoLuciaQuote from Asystole RNI'd like to politely disagree on this... I don't consider a box of Russell Stover chocolates a "tip" when someone gives a box to the unit upon discharge. When any of my family has been in-pt, we've always 'thanked' the staff on all 3 shifts, trying to catch the weekend crew as poss. I have never considered it to be a 'tip'. It's been a 'thank you' when 3 of us sat quietly at bedside. It's 'thank you' when we've gone a little past visiting hours. It's 'thank you' when we've stashed a few extra towels, wipes, gowns, etc and nobody removes them.A gift is a nice way to say tip. Accepting "gifts" creates a culture of tipping and thus insinuates that better service or care will be provided in the expectation of a gift.
Maybe the difference is that a gift is given post or at time of discharge. There is NO expectation that rule bending (wink, wink) will be happening. It's time past and that's all it's meant to be - a 'thank you' for past services, not anything present or future. - Sep 24, '12 by Asystole RNQuote from amoLuciaExactly, it is a tip.I'd like to politely disagree on this... I don't consider a box of Russell Stover chocolates a "tip" when someone gives a box to the unit upon discharge. When any of my family has been in-pt, we've always 'thanked' the staff on all 3 shifts, trying to catch the weekend crew as poss. I have never considered it to be a 'tip'. It's been a 'thank you' when 3 of us sat quietly at bedside. It's 'thank you' when we've gone a little past visiting hours. It's 'thank you' when we've stashed a few extra towels, wipes, gowns, etc and nobody removes them.
Maybe the difference is that a gift is given post or at time of discharge. There is NO expectation that rule bending (wink, wink) will be happening. It's time past and that's all it's meant to be - a 'thank you' for past services, not anything present or future.
When you tip your waiter you give the "gift" after he has provided the service correct? When the attendant brings your bags to the room you give him a gift after the service provided correct?
It is a tip and it is unethical to accept. You should stay after, if you so desire, out of a professional kindness with no expectation of a gift. - Sep 25, '12 by xoemmylouoxDuring the holidays we get lots of goodies as thanks. I don't expect it, but it is very nice. I see nothing wrong with it. It is a simple thank you for all that we do for them. I also do the same for my healthcare provider and staff. Eh we are all so worried we are being "bought". I wouldn't accept money, but cookies.. bring them on