Germ phobia strikes even people who should know better - page 4

Someone who was very worried of being "exposed to things" at work posted recently; there were several follow-up posts on being afraid of things outside the hospital, not wanting to touch the shopping carts or the doors in public... Read More

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    Quote from SuzieVN

    Humans did not evolve living in close contact with animals.

    Cleanliness is next to godliness...
    Uh yes we did, but to first add that not all people who have animals in their home are nasty and don't know how to take care of their pets.

    You may have recalled reading in your history books that humans used horses as cars once or how about not so long ago when most people grew/raised their food and didn't shop at the grocery store, they had more animal contact than not. Even today, a large percentage of the human population has some type of pet.
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    But you have to understand that some folks sadly have altered immune functioning. I personally believe the answer, at least in part, is in getting people to optimize their own immune system functioning through exercise and sound nutrition and supplements. No, not a cure all; but an excellent step in the right direction. And it would help to dial down a lot of the phobias.

    My in-laws are complete OCD people. Turned their other son into being like them. My husband is normal. He is clean--cleaner than probably a number of men; but he's not neurotic like his brother. OK, maybe a little about his car, lol. But I'm not gonna change my in-laws. . .b/c I know that part of it goes to deeper issues and then it just became habitual thinking and behavior--reinforced over many decades.

    And, lol, I think we all prefer our own germs to someone else's.

    I do often taken a small bottle of hand gel with me when I go away. On the ships, at least the cruise line I was on, they were absolutely nuts about the alcohol gel and the alcohol spray bottles. They had people around with bottles of alcohol to remind you all the time. And you couldn't enter any of the eateries w/o having them squirt your hands or directing you to the gel dispensors. When you think about buffets in particular, this makes a lot of sense.

    I was also freaked out a bit by the skinny toilets in Europe. They didn't have regular toilet seats as we have here in the US, which made lining the toilet with a cover or even toilet paper tough. If you want to get rid of some of the germaphobia, go to Europe in the warmer climate. Loads of people and skinny, weird toilets, and not always soap and water.

    Some of the churches have very Spartan bathroom facilities--even though there can be much to see in terms of art, history, etc, within those churches. So, I'm sorry. Shoot me. I brought portable hand gel, and I was often glad that I did.
    Last edit by samadams8 on Apr 3, '13
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    Quote from wooh
    I love the people that freak out about handwashing after using a public toilet. So you wash your hands, then stick them under the hand dryer. Which has just sucked up all the bathroom germs, heated them up, and now blown them back onto your hands. Not just the ones from the toilet paper and the stall door. The ones from off the floor, where a toilet overflowed. Sucked up, HEATED UP, and blown straight onto your hands.
    Unless someone was in there coughing TB all over the place or something like that, nothing that dryer sucks up and blows out is going to hurt you. It's the fomites that will getcha! Yes, there is MRSA on toilet seats. As nurses, there is probably also MRSA in half of our noses...
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    Oh, I agree wholeheartedly! I was watching this show "Doomsday Preppers" not too long ago and this woman was preparing for a pandemic flu. She had isolation gowns, N95 masks, lots of germ-x, constantly cleaning everything, had an isolation tent rigged to isolate her entire house with the family inside. I just kept thinking, wow lady, you are going about this all wrong!

    And the whole thing about wiping off the top of the coke bottle before sharing? Exactly what has that accomplished? I have seen people take their sleeve, or just their fingers and rub their germ-infested selves all over that bottle, then hand it to their kid. Oh good, now you added germs. Nice going!

    Or the pacifier wipes new mommies carry around to sanitize the paci every time it falls out of baby's mouth. Ya know what I do? Put it in my own mouth to get the dirt off and give it back to the kid. Kinda disgusting, I know.

    But no worse than the workers at Subway who wear the same pair of gloves to touch your food, open the toaster oven, add your veggies, and then ring up the food at the cash register and take your dirty money.

    People get so paranoid about shopping carts, but they don't even think about other things they touch! How disgusting is paper money? That's something you truly don't know where it's been. It could have been down a strippers crotch last night, and now it's your change at the grocery store. Shh, don't tell the germophobes!
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    Quote from NayRN
    Oh, I agree wholeheartedly! I was watching this show "Doomsday Preppers" not too long ago and this woman was preparing for a pandemic flu. She had isolation gowns, N95 masks, lots of germ-x, constantly cleaning everything, had an isolation tent rigged to isolate her entire house with the family inside. I just kept thinking, wow lady, you are going about this all wrong!

    And the whole thing about wiping off the top of the coke bottle before sharing? Exactly what has that accomplished? I have seen people take their sleeve, or just their fingers and rub their germ-infested selves all over that bottle, then hand it to their kid. Oh good, now you added germs. Nice going!

    Or the pacifier wipes new mommies carry around to sanitize the paci every time it falls out of baby's mouth. Ya know what I do? Put it in my own mouth to get the dirt off and give it back to the kid. Kinda disgusting, I know.

    But no worse than the workers at Subway who wear the same pair of gloves to touch your food, open the toaster oven, add your veggies, and then ring up the food at the cash register and take your dirty money.

    People get so paranoid about shopping carts, but they don't even think about other things they touch! How disgusting is paper money? That's something you truly don't know where it's been. It could have been down a strippers crotch last night, and now it's your change at the grocery store. Shh, don't tell the germophobes!

    Oh wow, thanks for that mental image. I knew money was dirty, common sense. But I just pictured money on the floor, someone coughing on their hands then handling it. NOW...I'm imagining stripper crotch germs...and I'm not even a germophobe!!
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    Oh my goodness GrnTea! I can't believe you wrote this. It could have out of my mind exactly like this. I read the post you mentioned and had the same thoughts as you.

    Thank you for a well written piece. But mainly, thank you for voicing what people need to hear. Humans are not sterile beings and neither is our environment for a reason. We need exposure in order to create defenses.

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    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    I was just thinking about how we used to drink water out of the garden hose
    Yes! I remember how good that tasted too. In the middle of summer, a hose was heavenly.

    Of course, this brings up another point that is tied to this whole discussion: remember when we spent hours playing outside, getting dirty and not caring about germs? Another heaven I miss.

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    Quote from edmia

    Yes! I remember how good that tasted too. In the middle of summer, a hose was heavenly.

    Of course, this brings up another point that is tied to this whole discussion: remember when we spent hours playing outside, getting dirty and not caring about germs? Another heaven I miss.

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    When my daughter was small she was always allowed to play in the garden and get dirty. She love it! I did the same as a child and aside from occasional colds, I don't get sick often and neither does she. In fact, again aside from colds, she never ended up with any of the "daycare plagues", either.

    Yet my friend who used to make comments about me letting my child get dirty, has two "clean" boys who are constantly getting sick.
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    Quote from morte
    best antivacine story I've seen!
    Lol. I already feel sorry for posting this because its a bit off topic, but should we just let ourselves get polio, tetanus, diphtheria, measles, mumps, and rubella so that we can build immunity naturally? I don't like that idea; I'll let YOU do that.

    Quote from NayRN
    But no worse than the workers at Subway who wear the same pair of gloves to touch your food, open the toaster oven, add your veggies, and then ring up the food at the cash register and take your dirty money.
    I'm pretty sure that in the food worker's mind the gloves are meant to keep THEIR hands clean, not YOUR food.
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    Thank you for this article! I am one of these germaphobes that is constantly putting hand sanitizer on my daughter and myself. I really needed to hear this!
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