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No. 40
from Jo Dirt
Old Oct 04, 2007, 08:47 AM

Default Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair....
Originally Posted by RN1121 View Post
I have a different outlook on the topic...

In response to the op, I think it IS fair to relieve an employee of their duties as a result of recurrent absenteeism.

I can't blame the facility for deciding to dismiss her. The circumstances are sensitive, and some flexibility is important in her situation, but unfortunately life has brought some difficult times.

The issues were obviously interfering with her job performance. It is difficult to rely on someone who is consistently absent, in any occupation, but especially health care.
Yes, I cannot be so naieve as to not realize that for profit means for profit and when you can't depend on a worker you can't depend on profit.

This is why I say, the only job security you can expect is the job security you can give yourself through your own business.

Rehabnurse I would like to contact you but I've been a bad girl and can't do it until I get out of the doghouse but be looking for a pm from me soon.
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No. 41
from leslymill
Old Oct 05, 2007, 12:43 PM

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I was called to this profession after I became a Christian at the age of sixteen. 15 of the 27 years I have had a license I told the Lord.
"You must have gotten the WRONG NUMBER!"
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No. 42
from P_RN
Old Oct 05, 2007, 01:01 PM

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Add this little piggy to the nursing service cost control line. Your'e sick? Too bad-call in every day before 4 am oh and you can only have FMLA once in a 365 day term. Oh and we can have 3 new RNs for all the m o ney we paid you. Bye and have a **** life.
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No. 43
Old Oct 05, 2007, 01:15 PM
Updated Oct 05, 2007 at 01:21 PM by ♪♫ in my ♥

Default Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair....
Originally Posted by P_RN View Post
Add this little piggy to the nursing service cost control line. Your'e sick? Too bad-call in every day before 4 am oh and you can only have FMLA once in a 365 day term. Oh and we can have 3 new RNs for all the m o ney we paid you. Bye and have a **** life.
Yup, that sounds about right. Again, though, it's not at all unique to nursing.

Without collective bargaining contracts that implement protections for such cases, people in most professions get the same treatment.

Originally Posted by motorcycle mama View Post
This man has a fourth grade education but he hasn't let it hold him back and last year working by himself made $130,000.
Of course, when he's sick or injured, he doesn't get a dime. I essentially agree with you but I've known some guys running one-man shops and while it can be lucrative, it can also be very stressful and downright terrifying.

I had a buddy who was an electrician. He did pretty well for himself. He ended up hurting his back and tried for weeks to work with his back out. No work meant no money so he went for it. His back got worse and ultimately required surgery. Ended up unable to work for several months and was in a world of hurt financially. He finally got better and found a job working for "the man" because the stress of being a one-man show was just too much for him.

The business owners I'm friends with are some of the hardest working, most stressed out people that I know.
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No. 44
from RN1989
Old Oct 05, 2007, 01:19 PM

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Why do we even bother? I'd almost rather live in a cardboard box under a bridge than have to deal with such horrible people just to make a living.
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No. 45
Old Oct 05, 2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RN1989 View Post
Why do we even bother? I'd almost rather live in a cardboard box under a bridge than have to deal with such horrible people just to make a living.
The question I ask is, "Why do we tolerate it?" We, the little people, are so busy scratching and fighting for the (relative) crumbs while the fat cats at the top of the food chain are laughing all the way to the bank.

Here's the really scary part: If it's like this for nurses (& from my experience, engineers), what's it like for the people at the bottom of the pile?

You know how they always talk about unemployment being so low? Do you realize that anybody who's been out of work for more than six months doesn't count as unemployed anymore?
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No. 46
from leslymill
Old Oct 05, 2007, 02:22 PM

Default Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair....
Originally Posted by RN1121 View Post
I have a different outlook on the topic...

In response to the op, I think it IS fair to relieve an employee of their duties as a result of recurrent absenteeism.

I can't blame the facility for deciding to dismiss her. The circumstances are sensitive, and some flexibility is important in her situation, but unfortunately life has brought some difficult times.

The issues were obviously interfering with her job performance. It is difficult to rely on someone who is consistently absent, in any occupation, but especially health care.
Your response is the single most total reason for the need for mandatory healthcare...period. I do blame the facility.
I refuse to call patients client anymore. Pt's have become demanding consumers not dying victims.
RN1121. I just wonder what your gonna think when you get sick and they fire your ARSE.
Dollars are more valued than compassion. That is why there is a nurse shortage.
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No. 47
from Jo Dirt
Old Oct 12, 2007, 08:14 AM

Default Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair....
Originally Posted by ♪♫ in my ♥ View Post

Of course, when he's sick or injured, he doesn't get a dime. I essentially agree with you but I've known some guys running one-man shops and while it can be lucrative, it can also be very stressful and downright terrifying.

I had a buddy who was an electrician. He did pretty well for himself. He ended up hurting his back and tried for weeks to work with his back out. No work meant no money so he went for it. His back got worse and ultimately required surgery. Ended up unable to work for several months and was in a world of hurt financially. He finally got better and found a job working for "the man" because the stress of being a one-man show was just too much for him.

The business owners I'm friends with are some of the hardest working, most stressed out people that I know.
It's a pain but it's the trade off for working for working for "the man."
Logging is very dangerous and I took care of a 43 y/o man in a nursing home who was paralyzed from a logging accident.

I know being "the man" can be a major pain. I also happen to know this auto mechanic who is having to scrap cars to keep his shop open because business is so bad.

Owning your own business isn't going to solve all your problems, but you don't answer to anyone but yourself.
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