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| No. 30 |
Oct 02, 2007, 03:50 PM
Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair....
I know what you mean.......I was fired almost TWO yrs ago and am having a heck of a time finding another job at a decent facility. Add another person to the HATE Nursing crowd!
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Oct 02, 2007, 05:34 PM
Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair....
This is the saddest stuff I have ever read. How can people be so heartless and cruel? I am thinking long and hard about my future after reading this. It is enough I will be stressed out about giving my all tothe patients, but to be going through cruel (I can't say what I want) personell is unheard of.
| | No. 32 |
Oct 02, 2007, 05:54 PM
Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair....
I have a different outlook on the topic...
In response to the op, I think it IS fair to relieve an employee of their duties as a result of recurrent absenteeism.
I can't blame the facility for deciding to dismiss her. The circumstances are sensitive, and some flexibility is important in her situation, but unfortunately life has brought some difficult times.
The issues were obviously interfering with her job performance. It is difficult to rely on someone who is consistently absent, in any occupation, but especially health care.
| | No. 33 |
Oct 03, 2007, 10:18 AM
Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair....
DEAD???
Now that just makes me trembling mad.
| | No. 34 |
Oct 03, 2007, 02:33 PM
Re: Rired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Nursing sucks Originally Posted by oramar The abusive spouse is an excellent analogy. I have thought as much myself. In my entire life I have never been abused by anyone or anything like I have been abused by nursing administration. If you talked to some of my previous employers they would tell you I was a problem employee. What was my problem? Is it conflict with other employees, or serious laspes in judgement in the area of patient care or med errors or did someone die in my care or suffer serious injury? No to all of the previous suggestions! My sin is that I protest nurse abuse. Their reaction to complaints about 10 to 1(or God help me even 12 to 1) nurse to patient ratio is "How dare you, you are disorganized, you are not a team player, you are chronic complainer, get out!"
YOU are so correct. I like it and will adapt your philosophy.
| | No. 35 |
Oct 03, 2007, 11:21 PM
Re: Rired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Nursing sucks Originally Posted by rehab nurse .... Then I was diagnosed with cancer at Christmas-time last year. I started treatment, had surgery, and when I called my boss to tell her I would need some time off. She asked why, and I started to cry, saying "I have cancer". Her response? "There's no reason for you to return. You're fired". Click. I can't tell you how upset her careless response made me feel. I gave 110% to that employer, worked extra, came in when they were short, helped institute a new type of "rapid response" team with the physicians, tried to help everyone despite the toxic environment caused by other shift nurses who refused to do their work. Refused to do admits that came in 4 hours before shift change!!! Refused to do orders after doctor's rounds...left them for next shift. Ridiculous. When this new DON came strolling in...I was targeted. I worked harder with a painful disability than some of the nurses there (I don't want to sound like a snob, but hey, we all know when other's aren't pulling their weight). I wasn't the only one let go either. A nurse in her late 60's had a MI at work, was sent to ER and admitted. She was written up for attendance!!!! "Leaving work before end of shift". I'm not kidding. A few weeks later, her very ill husband on hospice passed away. She came back to work really fast, but it wasn't until later that I found out it was because the DON told her she'd be fired if she took more than three days off, and to bring in a copy of the death certificate as proof of death!!!! She was so ill sometimes at work, but needed the insurance desperately. She was a very kind nurse, and was a good worker before she got sick. She was let go not long after me. Fired for "excessive absenteeism". ....
I would say this is unbelievable if I didn't know any better (and I certainly don't doubt anything you say) ... I'm just shocked and outraged that something like this can happen!!!
I sure know that sociopaths like your former DON exist in nursing (my former regional manager was one; I don't even want to remember the things she did... I just know that I would never return to this company as long as this devil  works there).
I hope things are better for you now.
((( Hugs )))
DeLana
| | No. 36 |
Oct 04, 2007, 12:44 AM
Re: Rired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Nursing sucks Originally Posted by oramar I disagree, I know people in other profession like teaching that suffered terrible health problems and were treated very well. Matter of fact, most the time they are treated very well. Occasionally I have heard horror stories of a school board that mistreated a teacher with a health problem but it is rare. In nursing the opposite is true, you are much more likely in nursing to be shafted than in any other job that calls itself a profession. There is a deep well of nastiness in healthcare administration that may pop out anytime. I truely would not recommend the profession to anyone. I have offered encouragement to people that felt they had a calling and were determined to become a nurse because I don't like raining on anyones parade. But I refuse to beat the drum and try to recruit anyone into the profession.
I'll have to respectfully disagree. From what I've seen working in various high-tech firms, you'd be out the door in a heartbeat...unless, that is, you're one of the non-exempt folks working under a collective bargaining agreement.
Most teachers that I know (and I'm related to eleven of them) are unionized and hence protected from the "Oh. Well don't bother coming back." For what it's worth, not only are most teachers unionized, so are most cops, firefighters, airline pilots, and government employees. No wonder that they're treated better -- they've got professionals negotiating their contracts.
It's unconscionable how some companies will treat their people. The stories related above are horrifying. I don't know why we as a society tolerate such behavior. I guess we all think it won't happen to us.
| | No. 37 |
Oct 04, 2007, 05:59 AM
Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair.... Originally Posted by jlsRN I hate nursing. I just found out that a lady I know in town was fired from her longtime job at one of our nursing homes. She and I got out of nursing school around the same time, she's in her early 60s now. She was a resident care coordinator for a long time, and I heard great things about her through the grapevine. She has gone through a couple of bouts with breast cancer, and of course needed time off for that. Then, last April her adult son was killed in an industrial accident. She was naturally devastated and needed a LOA. She now had only one living child out of 3.
I found out today that she was fired after this last LOA because she had missed too much work. I hate nursing. We are expected to give our last ounce of blood, and who takes care of us? No one.
Does your friend know about the family medical leave?
She should not be fired for the reasons you said. I think you should advise her to read the family medical leave act.
Wish her goodluck
| | No. 38 |
Oct 04, 2007, 08:26 AM
Re: Fired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Not Fair.... Originally Posted by jlsRN I hate nursing. I just found out that a lady I know in town was fired from her longtime job at one of our nursing homes. She and I got out of nursing school around the same time, she's in her early 60s now. She was a resident care coordinator for a long time, and I heard great things about her through the grapevine. She has gone through a couple of bouts with breast cancer, and of course needed time off for that. Then, last April her adult son was killed in an industrial accident. She was naturally devastated and needed a LOA. She now had only one living child out of 3.
I found out today that she was fired after this last LOA because she had missed too much work. I hate nursing. We are expected to give our last ounce of blood, and who takes care of us? No one.
It's a cold hard fact and an evil one (still, don't expect it to change) but we can't forget that The Company hires us and keeps us in a job to suit their needs, not ours. They use you up then spit you out when you don't suit them anymore.
But this isn't special to nursing only, any for profit place will be the same. About the only way you can expect job security is when you employ yourself. For example, we are going to have some trees cut on our property ( selective cutting, not clear cutting!) and the guy who came to look at our trees was talking about how he went into the business for himself because all his family would get if he got killed logging from the company he worked for would be a piddly social security check. He wanted finanical security like we all do so he took matters into his own hands. This man has a fourth grade education but he hasn't let it hold him back and last year working by himself made $130,000. That ain't chump change. And his business is growing.
I've vowed to get out of working for the man as soon as I can. I want to be The Man. If I were actually a man it would be easier (I think of all the ways to make money then I realize these are man's jobs...I can't run a carpet cleaning business or chainsaw or carpentry business). On top of that I'm stifled with a houseful of kids and an invalid husband. I can see success I just can't touch it. So, here I sit hunched over a keyboard taking online classes to try to get somewhere in life and even though it's like one of those dreams where you try and try but you never get anywhere I will still keep trying and trying.
That is my advice. If you're young enough find an opportunity to work for yourself because no company is going to be loyal to you no matter how much of your life you have given to them, as you can see by how your friend was treated. She is almost retirement age, but if she is in good shape she can still go out for herself. If I could ever get away from kids I would try to do something like a cleaning business, a service type business people need (not throwing lingerie parties or selling Home Inferior...that's fine if you want to do it but it seems more like a hobby job). Yes, business for yourself. You can't expect anything but hard times when you've given your life to an institution and they decide they are finished with you.
| | No. 39 |
Oct 04, 2007, 08:35 AM
Re: Rired from longtime job, too much LOA r/t cancer, deaths in family. Nursing sucks Originally Posted by oramar I have offered encouragement to people that felt they had a calling and were determined to become a nurse because I don't like raining on anyones parade. But I refuse to beat the drum and try to recruit anyone into the profession.
I love the way you put that and I feel exactly the same way.
I've heard nursing is a sucker's job and it must be because I feel like a big one. But it's kind of hard to go out and find yourself again when you've got a family to support and bills to pay. I say nursing can be a good stepping stone to something else but please don't go into nursing with the ambition to do shift work in a hospital or a nursing home all your working years or your life will end up like that song 16 Tons. Or that one that goes work your fingers to the bone what do you get...
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