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No. 10
Old Mar 13, 2009, 12:12 AM

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Maybe this should be clarified---some facilities in the US are short-staffed with Nurses---but not all places and States are. Also, even if a certain place doesn’t have enough nurses, it doesn’t mean that they are actually hiring to have the appropriate number of staff. Due to the economic crisis too, they might just be utilizing the staff members that they have.
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from sunray12
Old Mar 13, 2009, 12:54 AM

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There's a shortage. Know your demographics. People are aging. They have medical conditions and plenty of them are no longer able to care for themselves. There are many people who are young and disabled or in just overall poor health and in need of care. This is what I'm seeing in my community. And lets not forget mental health services. Caring for the mentally ill is a growth industry in my area. The only people I know with businesses that are fluorishing right now are in mental health services and that's saying a lot in this economic cycle. All these people in need of care and yet many nursing programs are only taking in 10-25 students a year. Its tough and scary to be a new grad and not know what's next but hang in there. It sounds to me like this is a problem with a disconnect between nursing programs and reality. The nursing profession is changing. It is not necessarily about signing up for the new grad training program at your local hospital anymore. I think nursing schools probably need to evolve into preparing students for that.
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from ToxicShock
Old Mar 13, 2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stepcmpb View Post
I got into this profession thinking that finding a job would be fairly easy and now I'm thinking that I might have made a mistake.
I hope that isn't the only reason why you became a nurse.
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from SoCaliGirl
Old Mar 13, 2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxicShock View Post
I hope that isn't the only reason why you became a nurse.
If someone is interested in a wide variety of careers, job availability can be a deciding factor to break a tie. I think that's actually an important thing to think about.
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from Medsport
Old Mar 13, 2009, 01:19 AM

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I hear what your saying. I went into nursing partly because a family member thought I would be good at it and I'm a caring person, but also because it looked like a career that would be easy to get a job and always have openings. Boy was I wrong! I'm still reading that there is a nursing shortage, but in my area in NW Ohio, it is very difficult to find FT employment. Sure you can find a FT job at one of the shady nursing homes that overwork you and have a high turnover rate, but getting into a hospital (at least FT) is almost impossible unless you finished top of your class or know somebody that works there. I had to settle for a jail for the time being and still have'nt gotten FT after a year. I also work PT at one of the better nursing homes, but don't like working there and its a good drive for me. I'm to the point that I'm almost forced to go back to school (for the 4th) time to try to get an RN even though I thought I was finally done with it and already have way too much loans taken out for only an LPN (well part of it was accounting too). Problem is I can't afford to pay for classes and don't want to take out any more loans. My employer "may" reinburse for classes after you complete them, but I don't know if I can take the chance that its not in the budget as the company is'nt doing the greatest either. Plus the local paper says unemployment is near record levels at around 15%. I almost want to apply to other parts of the country, but in reality thats hard to do when you have a house and pets and little or no money to travel...
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from stepcmpb
Old Mar 13, 2009, 07:52 AM

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First, I was very cautioned about the way I worded that last phrase. I didn't get into nursing because I wanted a job. That's a stupid reason. I appreciate all the responses especially from the older nurses who has so many insights. Someone said, "It sounds to me like this is a problem with a disconnect between nursing programs and reality. The nursing profession is changing. It is not necessarily about signing up for the new grad training program at your local hospital anymore. I think nursing schools probably need to evolve into preparing students for that." I agree with that person. I asked a classmate the other day, why isn't our school not addressing the fact that when we graduate we won't be able to find jobs and she said, the school is afraid that if they address that issue, people won't bother applying to their program anymore. I definitely agree with that.


Also, a couple days ago at the hospital where I do my clinical, I saw a couple of patients getting neglected and I don't blame it on the nurse. My classmate and I got the patients in the same room. I had bed 2 and she had bed 1. I got on the floor by 0800 and I saw that they pt was having her breakfast, so I asked the nurse if she checked her blood sugar and she said yes. She does not need insulin. Well, it turns out that pt did need insulin, which I gave at 1045. I was upset because I had to go into the computer system and explain why the insulin was over 3hrs late. I told this to my mother and she said, they need more nurses on that floor, but they won't hire more because they are trying to save money by cutting back. So who suffers?
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Old Mar 13, 2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxicShock View Post
I hope that isn't the only reason why you became a nurse.

This right here lies at the core of why people gripe and moan about how they think that there isn't really a nursing shortage.

Yes, there is. It's well-documented, it is statistically a fact. For many of the people whining about not being able to find a job, your problem is that you believed that a job was just going to be handed to you with minimal effort on your part. Not so. You actually have to work the streets, meet and greet people, go to job fairs, and DO THE LEGWORK TO FIND A JOB YOU WANT. This is not rocket science, folks.

The jobs are there. Just don't expect them to fall into your lap.


Oh and also, I hate it when people also whine about how the only reason the nursing shortage exists is because nurses leave. It's like that in every industry, ok? Maybe a little bit more turnover than usual, but that just creates opportunities for you. If you don't like your working conditions, lobby to change them. Work proactively rather than just griping on the internet about it. Just a thought.
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No. 17
Old Mar 13, 2009, 09:09 AM

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I guess "shortage" depends on what we mean. Hospitals may deliberately not hire enough nurses; so a shortage will then exist on the unit, which becomes understaffed and not as safe for patients. So, in that case there's a shortage yet no jobs posted (or, jobs posted that the hospital has no intention of filling anytime soon).

Then, yes, there's demographics - the Baby Boomers are aging and will need much nursing care. That will constitute a REAL need, not a need specified on paper by what nurse-to-patient ratios the hospital administrators think are sufficient.

So, a shortage vis a vis real needs, versus a shortage vis a vis hiring practices - those may be different things.

Finally, I guess regional differences exist as well, as far as how bad a shortage is.
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Old Mar 13, 2009, 09:47 AM

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Well, I'm in NY and we need nurses, but I'm in the rural part no one knows about.
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from lindarn
Old Mar 13, 2009, 11:52 AM

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I am an older, experienced, nurse who has been out of the work force for several years. Yesterday, I attended a job fair sponsored by ICNE (Intercollegiate Center for Nursing Education), in Spokane, Washington. There were many hospitals looking for the new grads who are gradauting with their BSN in May. Many of them are offering Nurse Internships.

If anyone would like to PM me, I will give them the names of the hospitals who are looking to hire new grads, and the ones who are offering new grad interships. Its the least I can do for my fellow nurses. I hope that this helps.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
Spokane, Washington
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