Ethics: Does it bother you when people are in nursing to make money? - page 4

I just wondered if others as I do feel there are some in our line of work who look at money, security of earnings first rather than having a passion for their patient's welfare or wanting to work at... Read More

  1. by   leslie :-D
    thanks, multi.
    wonderful, insightful post.
    makes much sense.
    thankfully (???), i've never felt the need to prove myself.

    delusions of grandeur, et al?
    my little bubble, has served me well.

    leslie
  2. by   Miss Mab
    Well, I didn't GO into it for the $$$, but that's pretty much the only reason I'm sticking around at the moment. I reach past that 100k mark just by doing my 3 a week--god bless California! No crazy everyday OT thing for me.

    That said, I also give 100% of myself at work but nothing more because I finally understand i can't do everything myself. If I'm not given the tools to succeed then i probably won't. I'm slow, huh? Despite my strong opinions on nursing as a "profession' I am actually considered the nice one at work. Clinically competent with a patient advocate's heart. Despite this, though, I absolutely show up almost soley for the cash. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

    Now, no need for hypotheticals because this country is actually already at war, I assume you've heard about it, so I took my money grubbing self down to the recruiter and actually joined the military. I guess patriotism trumps capitalism for this RN.

    We need more people 'doing it for the $$' not less. That's how you demand increases and equity and parity with our responsibilities. All you, it's only about the caring folks, send out a message to corporations that you're willing to do the job for whatever pittance they deign to pay. If you are, good on ya, but you're screwing w/the rest of us!
    Knock it off!
  3. by   leslie :-D
    whoa nelly, miss mab.
    your adrenaline is really pumped.

    take that adrenaline, and kick some royal a$$.
    we're proud of you.

    leslie
  4. by   withasmilelpn
    Quote from TeleRNer
    I just wondered if other as I do feel there are some in our line of work who look at money, security of earnings first rather than having a passion for their patient's welfare or wanting to work at finding ways to improve their performance as a nurse.

    Any thoughts? Comments? Rants?
    I go above and beyond every time I go to work because I believe my patients and my co-workers deserve no less. But I feel absolutely no shame in going after money in the process. By being a dependable, knowledgable worker I have quietly and respectfully managed to negotiate good schedules and great pay. I will not settle. I have a family to take care of, and goals that go beyond my job. Money talks!
    In regards to performance, frankly, I don't have respect for anyone that just does something for a paycheck. Every job should have your commitment to excellence, don't you think? I think that if everyone would wake up every day thinking what can I do to improve myself and things for others as well - what a world we would have! I know I sound a little preachy and yes somedays my views on this subject are tested (when I'd rather stay in bed!), but I think it is good to have some core values like these guiding you in the workplace, especially in Nursing.
  5. by   ann945n
    I got into nursing for the pay and job security. It was also a job I knew I could take in many different paths so I could find my happy niche. As well I think someone who gets a job for pay/security reason is a happy employee and does a good job as well. Of course I care for my patients and enjoy my job but because my motives are different from say someone who "had a calling" doesnt make me or anyone else less/worse of a nurse.
  6. by   ann945n
    Quote from Miss Mab
    Well, I didn't GO into it for the $$$, but that's pretty much the only reason I'm sticking around at the moment. I reach past that 100k mark just by doing my 3 a week--god bless California! No crazy everyday OT thing for me.

    That said, I also give 100% of myself at work but nothing more because I finally understand i can't do everything myself. If I'm not given the tools to succeed then i probably won't. I'm slow, huh? Despite my strong opinions on nursing as a "profession' I am actually considered the nice one at work. Clinically competent with a patient advocate's heart. Despite this, though, I absolutely show up almost soley for the cash. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

    Now, no need for hypotheticals because this country is actually already at war, I assume you've heard about it, so I took my money grubbing self down to the recruiter and actually joined the military. I guess patriotism trumps capitalism for this RN.

    We need more people 'doing it for the $$' not less. That's how you demand increases and equity and parity with our responsibilities. All you, it's only about the caring folks, send out a message to corporations that you're willing to do the job for whatever pittance they deign to pay. If you are, good on ya, but you're screwing w/the rest of us!
    Knock it off!
    Amen sister!
  7. by   James Huffman
    Quote from TeleRNer
    And I truely wonder,

    If it were world war three in these here states, would you as a nurse volunteer your services to the wounded. Since, possibly the country could be in financial ruin. Would you just think bottom line mother dollar and run?

    OK, I'm going to be the first one to say this: if there were a world war three, yes, even then, I expect to be paid. And paid well. I notice that even in war time, nurses get paid. Why shouldn't we? Nobody else imagines that their work is of so little value that they shouldn't get paid. Why do nurses feel that way?

    I'm sorry, but this is a moronic discussion. I've never heard any other professional group where people try to make each other feel guilty because they are making money at their work. Only nurses sit around and discuss stuff like this. And this, my friends, is why nurses are not paid well. Because we -- as a professional group -- don't value our services.

    We have this vaguely guilty feeling that what we are doing isn't really worth it, that what we do could really be done by unpaid volunteers, and that somehow hospitals and others who purchase the services of nurses are getting ripped off by us. How else can I explain people acting as though we took a vow of poverty? Well, if someone wants to take a vow of poverty, that's perfectly fine. But I didn't, and I have no intention of doing so. I have a set cost per hour, and I will not work below that amount. And I'm actually raising my fees in January. Do I do volunteer work? Absolutely. As -- I suspect -- at least 90% of the people reading this. But it's crackers to talk about working for nothing. And nurses who think we should have -- in my humble opinion -- forfeited forever the right to complain about any aspect of their compensation. They deserve what they get.

    But the problem is that nurses who don't mind working for nothing mess up the rest of nurses. Because they make the public continue feeling that nurses are angels of mercy, whose hands are too pure and elevated to even sink to the level of touching filthy lucre.

    Well, I'm not an angel of mercy. I don't have a calling from God or anyone else to be a nurse. I do it because I've been educated in my field, and I'm good at it. And I deserve to be paid well. And if you're a competent, skilled practitioner, so do you.
  8. by   Lisa CCU RN
    I personally, like money, security, opportunity, benefits, patient care, and deveploment as a nurse EQUALLY.

    Yes, I'm in it for all of the above.
    Everyone needs money, period. That's the way the world works.
  9. by   EmmaG
    James, I have found another Hero.

    *clap*
  10. by   steelcityrn
    Just made me think of the old steel town image. Many a family member worked 50-60 hours a week in the mill, and it wasn't because they enjoyed working in a enclosed filthy hot oven, or at the other end loading steel onto rail cars in the freezing cold coming home exhausted, it was for the money. It was their skill with a pay that they could raise a family on. Same thing with nursing.
  11. by   Shantas
    I do work over time and I do care about how much I am getting paid for. I feel that I deserve every penny of it.
    Not many people in this world will be willing to clean and handle all the dirty stuff that we handle just for nothing..... if the nurses did not do what they do now this world would be filled with sick and dying....who will take care of that confused 90 year old mother when the children go "out of town" for some "urgent work" on "X-mas day"??
  12. by   wooh
    [BANANA]Well, I'm not an angel of mercy. I don't have a calling from God or anyone else to be a nurse. I do it because I've been educated in my field, and I'm good at it. And I deserve to be paid well. [/BANANA]
  13. by   RNdude123
    I have no problem with anyone in the field for the money, provided they carry themselves as a competent professional and at least try to act like they care about their patients' welfare. I know my wife appreciates the opportunity to stay home with our son full time. That wouldn't be possible without the monetary benefits this job affords.

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