Electronic stethoscope? - page 2

I have had instances lately where I wasn't able to hear heart sounds. Both pts were rather large. I wonder if any of you use electronic steths and like them that much better than regular ones? Any... Read More

  1. by   caliotter3
    Just the requisite warning if you should get one of these high end scopes, they tend to develop legs. My Littman was inadvertently left at the home of my client when I had to "leave" by ambulance. It disappeared, and the only person who could have an interest in it was the licensed nurse who was given my case. So keep a keen eye on your expensive scope!
  2. by   soon2bnycmhnp
    Quote from bleppity
    Also, I wanted to point out that if you are a hearing impaired nurse or nursing student, check out your state's department of vocational rehabilitation. I have received 2 stethoscopes through that department without cost due to needing it for school and in order to do my job, as well as hearing aids.

    Thank you for your words of wisdom...Of cource iam going to do my home work....I could hug yalll....Keep it going...And a question yall can tell me about Hearing Aids too since i am old school....in my country(im from an Caribbean Island) we dont have much technology here. so....Any advices?
  3. by   bleppity
    Rapid Badger: I can hear lung sounds well with my Thinklabs stethoscope also. See www.thinklabsmedical.com for more info about it. It's cheaper at www.allheart.com though.

    Caliotter3 is definitely right. Don't leave your amplified stethoscopes laying around. They will indeed "walk off". Particularly if you work on cardiac/pulmonary floors where your peers definitely know what you have.
  4. by   soon2bnycmhnp
    Quote from caliotter3
    Just the requisite warning if you should get one of these high end scopes, they tend to develop legs. My Littman was inadvertently left at the home of my client when I had to "leave" by ambulance. It disappeared, and the only person who could have an interest in it was the licensed nurse who was given my case. So keep a keen eye on your expensive scope!


    <<<<<<I am not Loling this is Crazy!!!!But thank you so much for the Warning.I would be very mad if that happened to me ...
  5. by   sharrison27
    I have an electronic stethoscope, I could not use the traditional one with the ear pieces that go into your ears because i wear in the ear hearing aids. I purchased a cardonics e-scope. It is wonderful. I love it cause you can listen to the pt heart/lungs and still hear and understand them if they are talking to you. The scope is connected to a headset, like one would be hooked to an walkman, (Before the ipod).
  6. by   bleppity
    Quote from HOH11225
    Thank you for your words of wisdom...Of cource iam going to do my home work....I could hug yalll....Keep it going...And a question yall can tell me about Hearing Aids too since i am old school....in my country(im from an Caribbean Island) we dont have much technology here. so....Any advices?

    I wear biaural digital completely in the canal hearing aids. They really aren't noticable at all unless someone is just looking in your ear. They are programmed to pick up on the frequencies that I cannot hear. Mine have a 3 settings: a normal setting for everyday use, a "small group setting" that is slightly amplified, and a setting for restaurants/parties where the background noise is loud. The settings can be programmed for other uses, that's just what mine are programmed for. The sound quality is great. Hearing aids are quite expensive. I think mine would have cost approximately $6000 if I had to buy them myself. My state's department of vocational rehabilitation paid for them since the hearing aids are deemed medically necessary for me to be able to work. Certainly I could not be a nurse without my hearings aids and my amplified stethoscope. Hope this helps. My last pair lasted about 5 years, hopefully this new pair will last as long.
  7. by   bleppity
    I forgot to mention that I do have to take out my hearing aids to use my electronic stethoscope. That's a pain in the butt, but I've gotten used to it now.
  8. by   soon2bnycmhnp
    Quote from sharrison27
    I have an electronic stethoscope, I could not use the traditional one with the ear pieces that go into your ears because i wear in the ear hearing aids. I purchased a cardonics e-scope. It is wonderful. I love it cause you can listen to the pt heart/lungs and still hear and understand them if they are talking to you. The scope is connected to a headset, like one would be hooked to an walkman, (Before the ipod).

    whats the price? that sound interesting...and MAD Expensive
  9. by   Quickbeam
    FYI on steth theft...I had a few walk off on me. My husband took my replacement to a jewelry store and they engraved my name into it. It never happened again.
  10. by   soon2bnycmhnp
    Quote from bleppity
    I wear biaural digital completely in the canal hearing aids. They really aren't noticable at all unless someone is just looking in your ear. They are programmed to pick up on the frequencies that I cannot hear. Mine have a 3 settings: a normal setting for everyday use, a "small group setting" that is slightly amplified, and a setting for restaurants/parties where the background noise is loud. The settings can be programmed for other uses, that's just what mine are programmed for. The sound quality is great. Hearing aids are quite expensive. I think mine would have cost approximately $6000 if I had to buy them myself. My state's department of vocational rehabilitation paid for them since the hearing aids are deemed medically necessary for me to be able to work. Certainly I could not be a nurse without my hearings aids and my amplified stethoscope. Hope this helps. My last pair lasted about 5 years, hopefully this new pair will last as long.

    Oh my God...There no way i can purchase Hearing Aids for 6000, I really have to look into these people ...Thank God i came across yall ...Thanks so much for these information.No one never told me about these things....Not only am i new bie here i am a new bie in the USA...So i have to Listen , Ask question and do my home work....Whatb area are yall studying/ into in Nursing ...I am thinking Forensic
  11. by   soon2bnycmhnp
    Quote from Quickbeam
    FYI on steth theft...I had a few walk off on me. My husband took my replacement to a jewelry store and they engraved my name into it. It never happened again.

    :spin: LOL oh gorms Makes sense to me .....
  12. by   aviator411
    Check out www.amphl.org the Association of Medical Professionals with Hearing Losses. Their members come from all medical disciplines including nursing and their web site is full of great advice, forums, links to manufacturers, etc.

    I too suffer some hearing loss and am starting nursing school in the fall. Having done medical instrument electronic work for many years, I can share some of my experience.

    Not all, but most hearing loss is caused by age and/or exposure to loud noise. This type of hearing loss is characterized mainly by pretty severe loss in the higher frequency range. The speech consonant sounds like "s", "f", "t", "P", etc. have a large high frequency component so hearing loss in the high frequencies makes these sounds difficult to differentiate. What this means for such individuals is that they seem to be able to hear pretty well but they (we) often have difficulty understanding some speech.

    The good news for people with this type of hearing loss is that we generally have pretty good hearing at the low frequency end of the audio spectrum and this is the part of the spectrum where heart, lung and GI sounds occur. Virtually all of these sounds are at or below the frequency of 100 Hz; so a 70 db loss (which is not uncommon) at 6,000 Hz or higher has minimal effect on the sounds you need to hear via a stethoscope.

    Even people with good normal hearing, however, can benefit from an electronically amplified stethoscope because of their ability to minimize the annoying interferences which often occur in the hospital environment.

    Unfortunately if you wear hearing aids like I do, even these electronic stethoscopes are problematic since you need to remove your hearing aids to use them.

    But good news is just around the corner. Cardionics expects to be releasing a new version of their electronic stethoscope within a "month or two" which includes the bluetooth wireless radio link technology. This will enable those who wear properly equipped hearing aids to have the stethoscope broadcast sounds directly to your hearing aids thus avoiding the need to remove them every time you need to use the scope. Small FM receivers which attach directly to behind the ear hearing aids is all that's needed to use this system. Some hearing aids even come with FM receivers built into them.

    I believe Cardionics can be found at cardionics.com

    The amphl web site contains some compelling stories of people who succeeded at getting into nursing and medicine many years ago when there was enormous opposition to doing so. One nurse tells of being rejected by several nursing schools and finally getting a call from a school hundreds of miles from her home where an opening had occurred. She travelled there for an interview while a box containing everything she owned sat in the hallway. When the director of the school asked her how she would survive her surgical rotation where everyone's lips are covered by masks she answered "I don't know but I'll figure something out." Somehow she managed to convince the director to admit her to the school. When it came time for her surgical rotation her preceptor placed her with surgeons who used the long-established tradition of hand signals during surgery.

    Where there is a will there is a way!
    Last edit by aviator411 on Feb 15, '07
  13. by   soon2bnycmhnp
    Quote from aviator411
    Check out www.amphl.org the Association of Medical Professionals with Hearing Losses. Their members come from all medical disciplines including nursing and their web site is full of great advice, forums, links to manufacturers, etc.

    I too suffer some hearing loss and am starting nursing school in the fall. Having done medical instrument electronic work for many years, I can share some of my experience.

    Not all, but most hearing loss is caused by age and/or exposure to loud noise. This type of hearing loss is characterized mainly by pretty severe loss in the higher frequency range. The speech consonant sounds like "s", "f", "t", "P", etc. have a large high frequency component so hearing loss in the high frequencies makes these sounds difficult to differentiate. What this means for such individuals is that they seem to be able to hear pretty well but they (we) often have difficulty understanding some speech.

    The good news for people with this type of hearing loss is that we generally have pretty good hearing at the low frequency end of the audio spectrum and this is the part of the spectrum where heart, lung and GI sounds occur. Virtually all of these sounds are at or below the frequency of 100 Hz; so a 70 db loss (which is not uncommon) at 6,000 Hz or higher has minimal effect on the sounds you need to hear via a stethoscope.

    Even people with good normal hearing, however, can benefit from an electronically amplified stethoscope because of their ability to minimize the annoying interferences which often occur in the hospital environment.

    Unfortunately if you wear hearing aids like I do, even these electronic stethoscopes are problematic since you need to remove your hearing aids to use them.

    But good news is just around the corner. Cardionics expects to be releasing a new version of their electronic stethoscope within a "month or two" which includes the bluetooth wireless radio link technology. This will enable those who wear properly equipped hearing aids to have the stethoscope broadcast sounds directly to your hearing aids thus avoiding the need to remove them every time you need to use the scope. Small FM receivers which attach directly to behind the ear hearing aids is all that's needed to use this system. Some hearing aids even come with FM receivers built into them.

    I believe Cardionics can be found at cardionics.com

    The amphl web site contains some compelling stories of people who succeeded at getting into nursing and medicine many years ago when there was enormous opposition to doing so. One nurse tells of being rejected by several nursing schools and finally getting a call from a school hundreds of miles from her home where an opening had occurred. She travelled there for an interview while a box containing everything she owned sat in the hallway. When the director of the school asked her how she would survive her surgical rotation where everyone's lips are covered by masks she answered "I don't know but I'll figure something out." Somehow she managed to convince the director to admit her to the school. When it came time for her surgical rotation her preceptor placed her with surgeons who used the long-established tradition of hand signals during surgery.

    Where there is a will there is a way!

    Amen ...this is preety Amazing i like how you broke down the whole concept...So you enrollin for fall too. I just sent out some application to CUNY for Fall too...I have my ten fingers crossed with my toes and I aint Afraid....I'm ready to do this...I'ts not because of the money, not to proove any thing to any one ,Its because this is my Calling.....Thank you.....Together we will conqueor.Please stay in touch

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