EEK! There's a woman in my room!

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Since the "man in my room" thread got closed, I thought I would try a different track. I want to focus on something a little different. :idea:

We know the emotional responses we got to the idea of men providing intimate care of women. What I want to discuss is the issues affecting the intimate care of men by women.

If any of you have read my prior posts on this subject, you are aware of my own difficulties with opposite sex care. To recap, my own experience involved a sexually abusive situation. I am male, and when I was in the hospital as a teenager, the female nurse decided that I needed a bed bath. So that is what she proceeded to do. And much to my embarrassment, I got an erection during said bath. I wasn't aroused, it just happened. As any guy can tell you, we just don't have direct control over that function. This nurse decided she had the "cure" and proceeded to strike me in the scrotum. A lot of damage was done, physically and emotionally. One testicle healed in way that would not allow me to father children (antibodies). I'm skipping over a lot of detail in the interest of brevity, but that's what happened. :imbar

I have heard over the years many comments as to a female nurse's reaction to the male erection. A number of times I have heard reference to causing a pain stimulus to stop the erection from occurring. The stimulus usually involved striking the genitalia with an object or by using the middle finger to "thump" or "flick" either the member or a testicle. I have heard several members of the military tell me this was done to them when they were hospitalized while in service, sometimes while recovering from combat wounds. In my situation, it could be that this nurse didn't get the desired result from just using the middle finger, so she resorted to something more forceful. :eek:

My questions to you all is this. How widespread is this? How many of you learned to do that in school? Maybe learned it after school? Have any of you ever done it to your male patients? Ever hear other nurses talk about it?

I'm not trolling and I'm not joking. It happened to me and others that I know of. It would be nice to get enough information together to come up with an article for a major nursing publication. That would bring the issue to the forefront and maybe launch an initiative to stop this brutal practice. Men treated this way could easily be your father, husband, son, brother, other family member, significant other, best friend, neighbor, or coworker.

One other thing. Given the overwhelming presence of women in nursing, male patients are often expected to just accept intimate care from women nurses without complaint. Often times there may be no other choice. But other times there are. It appears to me that female nurses (and other medical staff) have such unlimited access to male patients that they practically take it for granted. Many of the rules in place defining or limiting what male providers can do to female patients often don't apply to females in the care of men. I realize it varies among different facilities, and I have read on this forum that there are some men doing intimate procedures on female patients. However, I suspect the majority of facilities do put some kind of limit on what the men can do. Gender bias results when members of one sex are held to rules that the other sex is exempt from. The outcome of the bias is an imbalance where it is difficult for the female providers to effectively empathize with the male patients. That results the females taking an almost lackadaisical, casual, or blase' view of the modesty and privacy needs of male patients. For me it has been an uphill battle many times when receiving care just to get them to close doors or curtains, or provide draping. It's not the men I have this problem with, it's mostly women. To me treating a patient with respect and privacy specifically means covering my exposed body for comfort. To deprive me of that is to deny their obligations. I want female medical personnel to value my privacy as much as they value their own.

Having gone through infertility treatments with my wife and have stood next to her as she received care and I have noticed that privacy is never an issue. During breast exams only one side was exposed at a time. I have endured several exams where I was instructed to strip down to just underwear and wait for the doc. When the doc enters the room there is a moment where anybody outside can see past the doc. When the doc gets to the genital exam you have to lower the shorts to midthigh so you are essentially naked, and then have to bend over the table for the digital. I know men who have had this done by female docs. Absolutely cruel. At least I have only had male docs for this. I have had my share of ER visits over the years, GSW, plane crash, fire/smoke injuries, etc. Every time I have had to battle for my privacy/dignity/decency. When you are hurt that's the last thing you should have to worry about.

Any other men here experience this? Your thoughts on this ladies?

I have nothing against women. I find myself in agreement with many women here when it comes to personal care. Please don't think I'm on a tirade. If we can get some constructive dialog going maybe we can learn and do better for others.

Let's keep it nice so the mods don't close the thread. :wink2:

Specializes in ER.
I have asked several women who have been in the military about their entrance physicals. All of them, officer and enlisted, said it was a mirror image of a civilian exam. This is the first I've heard of a group exam. Well, I learn something new everyday.

Were any male docs, nurses, or corpsmen involved with this? I'm sure it would be easier if all involved were of the same sex. What did they do about the pelvic? Not in a group for that part I hope. :madface:

In my single days I dated 2 female naval aviators (not at the same time:bugeyes:). I asked them about how they were treated when I came to physicals and such. They had to go to SERE school like the guys but they didn't get the stripped naked treatment the men got.

this was in 1991 in Indianapolis at the MEPS station. I would assume that was commonplace back then (ha ha, feels like two minutes ago for me!!) for the group thing (all of those females in my basic training all were subjected to the same thing. I attributed it to the docs wanting to look at everyone's walks, instep and move everyone on quickly) - not the pelvics, though... :nono: I don't recall anyone (other than the doc) that were male...

And any hands on things were done in private (like breast exam, etc...)

Thank you 58flyer for writing about your experience. As a student, these stories are so important for us to become better nurses. I had no idea that gender differences might make a pt uncomfortable but I will be SURE to be especially respectful.

I have messaged some of you here with my latest news but after looking back over this thread I think there may be others who may want to know.

My wife and I have been trying to adopt for over a year now and a little over a month ago the adoption finally came through! We are now the parents of a baby boy! It's been exciting and a real adventure. What a learning curve! Family, friends, and neighbors are just as excited as we.

Sterile or not, I AM A DAD! What a blessing this has been! :D

flyer

Congratulations and int time to have fun with him for the HOLIDAY SEASON--

Best

BUBBA

ALabama

Aww...congrats!! That's wonderful news!! You and your wife must be thrilled!! I know you will be a fantastic, caring, and loving father!! He's one lucky little baby doll!! :)

Specializes in orthopedics, ED observation.

Congrats on your immense piece of happiness. (And vast lifestyle change. :D) My sons are the greatest joy in my life!

The little one will have a good home because he was wanted by good people...Congratulations.

Specializes in midwifery, NICU.

:yeah::yeah::yeah::redbeathe:heartbeat:redbeathe:heartbeat:yeah::yeah::yeah:

I am so SO happy for you and your darling wife, you are at last a Mammy and Daddy!!!!! This wee guy is blessed, he will have a fab life with great parents! Congratulations to all three of you in becoming your own wee family, may the angels always bring love and luck to you, and may this Christmas be the finest you ever had! Well Done Pal, you are a DaDDY!!! The future is now all that matters............XC:heartbeat

i was ecstatic when you pm'd me, and i'm ecstatic now...

make sure you plop him in his little infant seat, in front of the Christmas tree.

i have amazing pictures of baby's first Christmas, 1 as an infant.

and the way their eyes bug out...

nothing like it.

aw 58, so much ahead for you guys.

i am tickled pink.

big, loving hugs to the 3 of you.

leslie:redbeathe:bby::redbeathe

Congratulations on that baby!

I am horrified by this thread. Up until now I had never heard of such barbaric treatment. What I was taught, and what I do, is to ignore it and cover the patient (I keep them covered as much as possible anyway). I would consider this act sexual assault and hope that if anyone is aware of this happening now that they go to the police.

As for the recommendation to give a quick firm hold at the base of the member, um, isn't that pretty much a hand job? And do the instructors giving this advice not realize this??

ETA: I accommodate wishes as I can. I have worked in a very small hospital where they may only be three nurses in the entire building, so if the patient was not comfortable with any one of us then while we'll explain this compassionately the patient gets to decide whether or not he or she wants care.

Specializes in LTC/Rehab, Med Surg, Home Care.

Congratulations, from another parent through adoption.

I have messaged some of you here with my latest news but after looking back over this thread I think there may be others who may want to know.

My wife and I have been trying to adopt for over a year now and a little over a month ago the adoption finally came through! We are now the parents of a baby boy! It's been exciting and a real adventure. What a learning curve! Family, friends, and neighbors are just as excited as we.

Sterile or not, I AM A DAD! What a blessing this has been! :D

flyer

Specializes in Operating Room.

58flyer, congratulations!!!!:yeah::clown:

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