ED staff not checking blood sugars

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I was just wondering, if a patient comes to your hospital and part of their history is diabetes but that is not part of their primary diagnosis, do you still check their fingerstick? I just found out that this is not protocol at my hospital (I don't work in the ED, but a close friend does). She said that they will sometimes look at the blood glucose level when a blood panel is drawn, but unless the patient is admitted for something diabetes related they don't check fingersticks. Well this caused a problem for me the other day. I had a patient admitted for PNA who was also diabetic. While in the ED, he had a sandwich and a few snacks (he's generally well controlled at home, knows his diet). No one ever bothered to check his fingerstick, so when I checked it at night it was 426!! At home he takes a large amount of NPH BID, but had not had any that day. Of course in the ED you can't just waltz in with your own meds and start giving yourself insulin, so this guy just went ahead and ate not knowing his fingerstick since no one checked. (I know he could have asked someone, but when your starving and can't get anyones attention, you can't help it) So, in addition to trying to get his blood sugar back to a normal level, I was also going back and forth with the docs because they had the orders all wrong for his insulin compared to what he takes at home. Anyone else experience situations like this in their hospital? Thanks for the input!!

Specializes in ICU.
I dont know where you work, but I am a great ER nurse, and I work with great ER nurses, and I will hang meds on the admitting orders, I assess my patients, and know more about them then the ER doc does!! So please dont bash all ER nurses!!! By the way I sleep well at night, and will have no problem holding my license, you probably could not handle 2 hours in a busy ER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for your attention to detail! i specifically said "our ED nurses", not ALL. i also specifically said "when a bed was unavailable for hours". i would enjoy getting report from you. it would be a pleasure to get report from someone that actually assesses their patient in the ED. perhaps you could give our ED staff some tips. we haven't been able to get them to understand a baseline assessment of the system the patient is being admitted for is extremely important i.e. the neuro statis of a patient being admitted for a cva. don't get so defensive next time. it wasn't a bash to all ED nurses. the faster we understand that team work transcends floors and departments, the better off our patients will be. :banghead:

oh, by the way, been there, done that... i worked a trauma center ED and held my own rather nicely. :D

When I was an EMT, part of our protocol was to do a blood glucose on anyone with an altered LOC. Why would we do this on someone who was clearly injured in an MVA? Because you don't know whether the crash was the primary event or a result of someone who was already altered.

With so many undiagnosed diabetics walking around, doing a blood glucose in the ED might catch the condition for the first time. I'm with Roy in saying that mild elevation isn't a cause for alarm--although it can certainly be an invitation to follow up once the excitement has died down--but you can see some amazing numbers in folks who have no clue that they have a problem.

In one EMT case, I recall a relatively young man who felt sick on the job. He was a big guy and his s/s suggested a possible MI. We did a fingerstick as a "rule-out" kind of thing and got a reading in the 680s. His heart was fine. His blood sugar was in orbit. He'd obviously been diabetic for some time, but he had no idea. It's conceivable to me that he could have gone through a detailed cardiac workup, and when nothing heart-related showed up, he might well have been sent home with his diabetes still undiagnosed. I'm sure this happens more than we like to think.

My friend is involved in a lawsuit. Her husband came in to ER twice with NV and flu like symptoms. No one ever checked his blood surgar no way, no how. They just kept treating him for flu. He was a 40ish male of a from a group that is know to be diabetes prone. He was finally diagnosed with diabetes after his health was seriously harmed by a extremely high blood sugar. I don't care how it gets check, finger stick or blood draw but it needs to be checked.

I am a bit confused. Why do you need a doctors order to do a blood sugar?

Surely it is part of the job of treating the whole person? Does it require a docs order to do ob?

I'm a little confused by that too. Our ED does do them and the nurses have standing orders for them to do it when they deem it necessary. I would think that would be standard procedure.

Specializes in ER.

Nope, I just got "spoken to" last night for doing glucoscans without an order. Seems risk management feels that is practicing medicine without a license. Blattttt!

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
I am a bit confused. Why do you need a doctors order to do a blood sugar?

Surely it is part of the job of treating the whole person? Does it require a docs order to do ob?

Here in Florida we're covered and any nurse anytime can do an Accucheck.

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