Down and Dirty In The Oklahoma State Board of Nursing - page 3

Imagine someone who has worked all his adult life in healthcare, an orderlie in high school, EMT, a paramedic supervisor 8 yrs, and RN 17yrs ( ER charge, ICU charge, specializing in open heart... Read More

  1. by   cantoo
    Hi, Sleepless. I just wanted to give a word of encouragement. I am also in a peer assistance program for drug addiction in the state of Florida. I've got three years in the program this August. Our program is five years and has been a life saver for me. I became addicted to morphine after the death of my 17 year old daughter to a drunk driver. I turned myself in after waking up on the floor one morning and not knowing how I got there. Meeting all the requirements that are put on you isn't easy. The time and money involved can be daunting, but it's doable. After a while it gets to be second nature and just another part of life.....at least for me. Yeah, I resent having to pay that $35.00 every time I have to drop a UDS, but I always feel like a million bucks when I leave the lab knowing I'm clean. Like you, I was a critical care nurse for many years before this hit me. I ended up in LTC, thinking I was at the bottom of the barrel. Now I love it. Fortunately, I turned myself in before I was ever busted....it was just a matter of time....so my name is not on the OIG list. I think someone already posted the addy to the site to petition to get your name off the list. Several of the nurses in my group have done this and been successful. As you know, it is a federal list and will follow you where ever you go. I'm not sure about your nursing license and if that will hinder you in another state. I know in Florida, one must report any sanctions or restrictions from another state when applying for a license here. If I'm correct, Oklahoma will have already reported you to all other states....not sure. I think your best bet would be to first apply to have your name lifted from the OIG list and go from there. That list has screwed a lot of good nurses. Most of all, Sleepless, I want to tell you to hold your head high. You have done everything you can to get yourself well and you deserve a second chance. Unfortunately, a lot of nurses are still in the dark ages when it comes to addiction. Those of us that have been there and done that understand. You sound like a good nurse with a good work experience and I, for one, am pulling for you. Keep us posted!
  2. by   Quailfeather
    Hello Sleepless ~ I sent you a private message regarding the OIG, along with a website where you might find some answers.
  3. by   vanburbian
    Quote from BadBird
    Sorry but I am not falling for the poor me defense, YOU decided to take the Lortabs and brought about the problems on yourself now you want to point the blame at the State Board of Nursing. No pal, you were/are a addict and the BON has a obligation to keep unsafe nurses from harming patients, perhaps you did not harm a patient but we only know your side. If you are clean and sober and went through rehab then perhaps another State would welcome you. People must be held accountable for their own actions and not blame others, work hard to rectify the situation and move on with their lives. Good luck to you.
    It's always interesting to still see the attitude some nurses have about this. For crying out loud, he's paid his dues, is in active recovery, and is trying to become a productive member of society again. I suppose that the lack of forgiveness/understanding has an underlying cause for you, Badbird, something I can only speculate on. The OIG exclusion list, by the way, doesn't prevent him from working altogether, only in a facility that obtains ANY of it's funding from a medicare/medicaid based program. Well, that's about 98% of all healthcare positions. Now, here's the catch, Badbird- I would hazard a guess that you yourself are working right alongside a current &/or former drug diverter. They won't talk about it because of your attitude. They won't seek help, because of your permeating brimstone & hailfire attitude. Hopefully, someone with compassion will be there for them, or indeed, they will end up hurting or killing someone- THEMSELVES.
    Here's a chance to educate yourself a little bit about what WE'RE REALLY LIKE, us terrible drug diverting nurses. Sorry, I don't feel the guilt that you'd like me too. Not anymore, as indeed, I have worked hard to rectify the situation, have paid my dues by being unemployed and homeless while my license was inactive, and still managed to avoid using. Granted, I was extremely lucky in that I had an employer with advanced thinking in this arena- one who didn't feel that by turning me into the DEA or county prosecutor for theft would be any better, for any of us, than simply turning me in ot the BON. Which in my state, thankfully, they also seem to be in an enlightened and progressive mode of thinking. The OIG is meant to monitor those who committ serious, heinous fraud- and I'm sorry, but altering a scrip for some vicodin is trivial. Now if the guy had altered thousands of scrips, or stolen money from these programs that prevented someone else from getting their meds, I might see it. If he was a corporation who overcharged willingly & negligently, sure. If he were a pharmacist who was handing out placebos to all of his medicare/medicaid clients, again, no problem. This is a case of simply being made an example of. It happens every day, in every state. And trust me, people- nurses, are getting hurt by it. It's so obviously double jeapordy- punished by the BON, and usually, much later down the road, the OIG/HIPPD shows up and slaps charges on you too, in addition to county/state charges they may have gone through. Usually right around the time the person has a couple of years clean, has done what they needed to, and been working for a few months. What must that feel like? I imagine overwhelmingly they feel like giving up. But thats my talent, I can imagine what it would be like, I do still have empathy and am therefore worthy of practising the art of nursing. Those of you who don't/can't/won't~ well, it's time to consider a career change.

    http://www.nursezone.com/Job/Medical...articleID=6823
  4. by   sleepless in norman
    Thank you, I knew there had to be an organization some where to aid in situations such as mine, I worked to hard for my career to have a vicious state agency such as in Oklahoma arbitrarily end it. My violation had nothing to do with my job, I paid for the script, paid for the hydrocodone, all with my own money, on my own time, I have paid for this ten fold, and still paying for it everytime I turn around, since I've fallen behind on child support ( of which the child support agency is still making me pay the same amount of monthly payments, as when I was working an an RN, I now work for 8 dollars an hour, part-time, selling lawn and garden equipment ) and now they have revoked my drivers license, if it were not for familly and friends, I couldn't make it.Once again thank you very much, I'll be contacting you. Sleepless in Norman.
  5. by   loerith
    Quote from sleepless in norman
    Thank you, I knew there had to be an organization some where to aid in situations such as mine, I worked to hard for my career to have a vicious state agency such as in Oklahoma arbitrarily end it. My violation had nothing to do with my job, I paid for the script, paid for the hydrocodone, all with my own money, on my own time, I have paid for this ten fold, and still paying for it everytime I turn around, since I've fallen behind on child support ( of which the child support agency is still making me pay the same amount of monthly payments, as when I was working an an RN, I now work for 8 dollars an hour, part-time, selling lawn and garden equipment ) and now they have revoked my drivers license, if it were not for familly and friends, I couldn't make it.Once again thank you very much, I'll be contacting you. Sleepless in Norman.
    I am soooooo sorry this all happened to you. BoN's are way overpowered. They operate outside the bounds of the law and the Constitution. I always thought that in America the burden of proof was on the accuser and that you were innocent until PROVEN guilty. All it takes to have your life ruined with a BoN is just an accusation.

    I would be willing to work with anyone who is serious about reform of how state BoNs work. Right now they are totally outta control.



    Love and Peace,
    loerith
  6. by   nursemike
    Just started a smoking cessation class, so I feel some of your pain. Seems like an injustice that one addiction is (was) socially accepted and another makes you a "bad" person--although I'm not saying labelling smokers as "bad" peopple is the answer!

    Good luck and congratulations with your rehab, good luck with your re-instatement. God bless you.

    Have you looked into working at a rehab facility in the interim? If you feel ready, that seems like it might be tailor-made to someone with your background. Lord knows it's a growing need, though probably underfunded in this climate. Might not pay better than retail, but it seems like it could be more rewarding.

    Anyway, thanks for posting, and you're in my prayers, such as they are.
  7. by   Guttercat
    Quote from BadBird
    Sorry but I am not falling for the poor me defense, YOU decided to take the Lortabs and brought about the problems on yourself now you want to point the blame at the State Board of Nursing. No pal, you were/are a addict and the BON has a obligation to keep unsafe nurses from harming patients, perhaps you did not harm a patient but we only know your side. If you are clean and sober and went through rehab then perhaps another State would welcome you. People must be held accountable for their own actions and not blame others, work hard to rectify the situation and move on with their lives. Good luck to you.

    Drown any puppies this week?
  8. by   kids
    That is an 8 year old post/thread you're responding to
  9. by   OCNRN63
    Quote from kids
    That is an 8 year old post/thread you're responding to
    Dang. And I just read the whole way through it. There's fifteen minutes of my life I'll never get back.
  10. by   Guttercat
    Quote from kids
    That is an 8 year old post/thread you're responding to

    Looks like the post (today's date) before mine, got deleted by a mod.

    Still, I was not paying attention to the original thread date. Holy thread dredge!

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