Don't listen to the nurse

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So I was on Facebook & came across a question on a pregnancy board. It wasn't the question that had me confused & upset, as much as the replies. The OP asked if it was safe to put her twins in the same crib. The doctor said yes & the nurse said no. I looked through a lot of replies & a good chunk of them said NOT to listen to the nurse, she shouldn't be giving advice. ? That's rather irritating to me. Don't listen to the nurse?? I have NEVER heard that before. But to see that now is QUIET insulting!

Ruas61, BSN, RN

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Specializes in MDS/ UR.

People's opinion on the internet is only as valid as you let it be.

It can be appalling what you read but 99.9% of the time it isn't worth the argue or effort.

I get the frustration but I have personally concluded that there is not likely a place on the internet that I will pick as my last stand.

JMHO

OrganizedChaos, LVN

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Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.

Hahah. Yeah. People can talk a big talk on the internet & I wasn't about to start a flame war with these people. I was just so shocked at what these people said!

Specializes in PDN; Burn; Phone triage.

I do pre-anesthesia phone triage these days; part of my job is to give pre-op medication instructions to otherwise low risk patients. I go off pharmacy protocols and have a pharmacist on hand if I have any questions so it's not like I'm pulling stuff out of my butt. And it can still be a huge ordeal of "well my SURGEON SAID" blah blah. We recently had a case that had to be canceled because the surgeon gave the wrong instructions to a patient on anti-coags, without consulting the patient's Cardiologist first.

dishes, BSN, RN

3,950 Posts

Instead of offering opinons, both the doctor and nurse could quote the American Academy of Pediatrics guidelines, twins should not share a crib.

BSNbeauty, BSN, RN

1,939 Posts

I went to my husbands work holiday party this pass week and one of his coworkers wives was talking about how her L and D nurse knew nothing and how the doc saved the day.... I really had to bite my tongue.

Specializes in Reproductive & Public Health.
Instead of offering opinons, both the doctor and nurse could quote the American Academy of Pediatrics guidelines, twins should not share a crib.

Or, quote the National Associate of Neonatal Nurses, who use the same data presented in the AAP guidelines and have a much more reasonable conclusion (at least in my opinion):

http://www.nann.org/uploads/files/Cobedding_of_Twins_or_Higher-Order_Multiples_2011.pdf

Specializes in NICU.

If the nurse was attractive the preggo wife was feeling pangs of jealousy.Here she has not had relations with her man in who knows how long depending on pregnancy complications,feels unsexy, and there yo go that pretty nurse is "dumb ,doesnt know what she is doing"

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
The OP asked if it was safe to put her twins in the same crib. The doctor said yes & the nurse said no. I looked through a lot of replies & a good chunk of them said NOT to listen to the nurse, she shouldn't be giving advice.

My reply might upset some people, but here it is. When a doctor and a nurse are asked the exact same question, by default the doctor is going to have more credibility than the nurse. This may seem unfair, but nothing in life is fair.

Society ascribes value to different peoples' opinions based on factors such as education, occupational prestige, and relevant experience. Physicians rank highest in the areas of educational attainment and occupational prestige, so their opinions are going to carry more weight in the eyes of the lay public, even if the opinion or advice is outdated or grossly incorrect.

RunBabyRN

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Specializes in L&D, infusion, urology.
My reply might upset some people, but here it is. When a doctor and a nurse are asked the exact same question, by default the doctor is going to have more credibility than the nurse. This may seem unfair, but nothing in life is fair.

Society ascribes value to different peoples' opinions based on factors such as education, occupational prestige, and relevant experience. Physicians rank highest in the areas of educational attainment and occupational prestige, so their opinions are going to carry more weight in the eyes of the lay public, even if the opinion or advice is outdated or grossly incorrect.

This one brings us 'round to Dr. Oz. Oh my.

Research confirms it: Dr. Oz dispenses a lot of medical advice with no scientific grounding – Quartz

dishes, BSN, RN

3,950 Posts

Society ascribes value to different peoples' opinions based on factors such as education, occupational prestige, and relevant experience. Physicians rank highest in the areas of educational attainment and occupational prestige, so their opinions are going to carry more weight in the eyes of the lay public, even if the opinion or advice is outdated or grossly incorrect.

This is why from a liability point of view, both the nurse and doctor should quote the American Academy of Pediatricians guidelines, not the National Associate of Neonatal Nurses guidelines. If a healthcare professional encourages twins to share a crib and one twin dies of SIDs and as a result the parents sue, the AAP guidelines will carry the most weight in court.

SubSippi

909 Posts

I went to my husbands work holiday party this pass week and one of his coworkers wives was talking about how her L and D nurse knew nothing and how the doc saved the day.... I really had to bite my tongue.

In a hospital setting, it is EXCEEDINGLY rare that when something happens (good or bad), only one person is responsible for it.

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