Does the same rules apply to doctors

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Ok I have a question I'm a school nurse and I know all nurses have to have their nursing license renewed and CPR renewed every 2 years. Does doctors have to do the same? Ok here's the deal. An ER doctor wants to coach basketball for 7th & 8th grade and they want him to give them a copy of his CPR license. He tells them he don't have to do that because he's been an ER doctor for 18 years very arrogant doctor. So they are waiving his CPR license. I don't think that's right because I'm a nurse and I had to have mine done. Maybe I'm missing something so doctors are excluded?

Find out from the Board that licenses physicians in your state what their requirement is for doctors with regard to CPR renewal. Also, make sure whether or not he is even really a licensed physician.

Find out what the school or school district or whoever is hiring him to coach requires.

Watch your step. You could easily bruise egos and step on toes and find yourself fired and blacklisted. So do your research and opining very much on the QT.

Just because you have to do it doesn't necessarily mean that a doctor should have to, although I do understand why you think it's unfair. Of course, as a coach, he won't be working as a doctor, so is it really relevant for him to have a current MD license and a current CPR license?

Best wishes.

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A case of arrogant bullying. He basically told them "I am a doctor, don't question me". The sad part is docs NEVER do CPR, they know what drugs to give, but given a BLS scenario that would happen on the court, his ACLS will not help at all. Would have been nice if the person he was dealing with wouldn't have been intimidated by his title.

Exactly! I was in my office when he told the school secretary I'm a ER doctor have been for 18 years I don't need to show proof of CPR license They never asked me for it before ugh.....some doctors are so arrogant:cautious::sniff:

A case of arrogant bullying. He basically told them "I am a doctor, don't question me". The sad part is docs NEVER do CPR, they know what drugs to give, but given a BLS scenario that would happen on the court, his ACLS will not help at all. Would have been nice if the person he was dealing with wouldn't have been intimidated by his title.

No I'm good just curious. The requirements is to have a CPR license on file for any coaching jobs but he thinks he shouldn't have to do that because he's a doctor but it's required for all applicants who wants to coach. So he thinks he should be exempted from it and the district is asking the school office manager to get a copy of his CPR license

Find out from the Board that licenses physicians in your state what their requirement is for doctors with regard to CPR renewal. Also, make sure whether or not he is even really a licensed physician.

Find out what the school or school district or whoever is hiring him to coach requires.

Watch your step. You could easily bruise egos and step on toes and find yourself fired and blacklisted. So do your research and opining very much on the QT.

Just because you have to do it doesn't necessarily mean that a doctor should have to, although I do understand why you think it's unfair. Of course, as a coach, he won't be working as a doctor, so is it really relevant for him to have a current MD license and a current CPR license?

Best wishes.

Mr. Murse, I know plenty of doctors do CPR.

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I work at a children's hospital. All our docs have to do the same CPR renewal (from the American Heart Association) as everyone else. That also applies for ACLS and PALS. We also offer special classes for all the coaches and athletic trainers in the region. Most of them get the same BCLS, PALS, and/or ACLC training from the American Heart Association -- with the same renewal requirements.

That guy is just being a jerk.

I thought the requirement for BLS was set by the employer, not the board of nursing or medical licensing board. If I were to stop working and don't renew my BLS I'm almost certain I could keep my license active regardless. I don't think the BON cares or the Medical review boards, I think it's the employers who do.

It is the employer but this particular doctor/coach thinks he should be exempted from it

I thought the requirement for BLS was set by the employer, not the board of nursing or medical licensing board. If I were to stop working and don't renew my BLS I'm almost certain I could keep my license active regardless. I don't think the BON cares or the Medical review boards, I think it's the employers who do.
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I thought the requirement for BLS was set by the employer, not the board of nursing or medical licensing board. If I were to stop working and don't renew my BLS I'm almost certain I could keep my license active regardless. I don't think the BON cares or the Medical review boards, I think it's the employers who do.

The employer sets the requirement as to whether current, up-to-date education is required for employment ... but the organization that is running the educational program and providing the educational credit decides how often renewal is required for an individual to say they are current/up-to-date in the training. The 2 major organizations that provide most CPR training in the US are The American Heart Association and The Red Cross.

Surely if he is an ER doc, he has the proper certification. I don't see why he wouldn't just show them his ACLS card though. Or if he is board certified in Emergency Medicine, it seems that would trump any kind of ACLS certification requirement.

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Just tell him it is required. Dude!

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