Does Gender Affect Our Views On Pay?

Nurses work hard, place themselves in perilous situations, and juggle multiple challenges during an average shift. Why are other nurses adamant that the pay does matter? I believe that historical factors and gender roles are major contributors to the ways in which we view the issue of compensation. Nurses Announcements Archive Article Video

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The other day I was involved in a cyber 'chat' with a user on another popular social networking site who happens to be a nurse in a different state than the one in which I reside. Even though this person has never met me in person or worked with me one single day in our lives, she typed, "You're probably one of those lazy nurses who wants top dollar for minimal work."

Instead of stumbling into the knee-jerk reaction of taking immediate offense, I remained cognizant that people can become antagonistic when cloaked by the anonymity of the vast world wide web. I also set aside a brief moment to perform some self reflection. Am I lazy? Do I do minimal work? Well, my bosses at my workplace don't seem to think so, as evidenced by the excellent employee performance review I recently received.

Do I want top dollar for the work that I perform? Well, I'd most certainly be lying through my teeth if I said no.

Educated Professions Dominated Women

Take a long, hard look at the educated professions that are dominated by women. Nursing, social work, school teaching, library science, and psychology are the college majors and professions that are overwhelmingly occupied by females. With the lone exception of nursing, these careers offer some of the lowest starting salaries in the US. It is not a coincidence that the lowest-paying professions in the entire country are taken up by women, whereas the highest-paying professions are filled with men. Something historical is in play.

Many female nurses make statements such as, "The money doesn't matter to me," or "I would do this job for free." They have the tendency to hem, haw and gently beat around the bush when it comes to discussing salaries, raises, and issues that revolve around compensation, even when they're living from paycheck to paycheck. Many women are reluctant to negotiate.

Men Place Greater Significance On Compensation

Meanwhile, countless men who take up nursing are not afraid to openly discuss pay rates and salaries. When receiving what they perceive to be a job offer with a lowball starting salary, it is not uncommon for male nurses to attempt to negotiate for a higher pay rate, become amused at the interviewer, or even walk away from the offer altogether. I know that my following comment might drum up some controversy, but I feel that men place a greater significance on compensation than their female counterparts.

Think about it. Even in entry-level jobs such as serving and waiting tables, male waiters generally opt for the places where more money can be made through bigger tips and gratuities such as steakhouses, casual dining eateries, fine dining establishments, and restaurants on the grounds of country clubs. Although female servers do work at more upscale places, it is also normal to see a virtually all-female staff at low-cost family dining restaurants such as the Waffle House, Denny's, IHOP, and cafes where less tips are generated due to the substantially lower meal prices.

I'm a nurse who works hard and deals with various challenges during the course of a routine shift. Therefore, I feel no shame in my game for wanting a competitive pay rate for all the services that I render. Anyone who says that "The money doesn't matter" is selling herself short.

It's time to negotiate a Higher Salary!

Specializes in PCU, ICU.

I fully agree! Nurses have been slow to recognize their role in the revenue stream. We need to go further and get the ANA on board. I don't see where the ANA is going head to head with the AMA to get a bigger piece of the pie. Without Nurses, nursing judgment, and nursing skills, there is no medical care for patients. We aren't just warm bodies anymore.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
USNurse1 said:
I fully agree! Nurses have been slow to recognize their role in the revenue stream. We need to go further and get the ANA on board. I don't see where the ANA is going head to head with the AMA to get a bigger piece of the pie. Without Nurses, nursing judgment, and nursing skills, there is no medical care for patients. We aren't just warm bodies anymore.

You are barking up the wrong tree expecting the ANA to do anything positive for nurses.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

I truly believe that if enough nurses, as a sign of solidarity petition to use the Lily Leadbetter Act as a means of creating equal pay, then I'm all for it...as well as getting nursing orgs and even unions involved, if possible as an activist body-unions have set a lot of our required rules, so don't count them out, either...

I think a lot of times we do not speak up for our salaries ENOUGH, and in turn, our hard work doesn't equate to a higher salary that competes with the cost of living.

I will say that I have negotiated my pay, even discussed it. Because they use a clinical ladder model an a new grad with LPN experience, I do get a pay adjustment percentage in addition to the base increase after a year. And yes, in writing.

We have to find a way to get our salaries in a better position, especially for our livelihoods. A lot of us are heads of households, have children, mortgage, student loans, etc. and we should be able to provide for ourselves properly just as we do for the good of our patients.

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I will once again repeat myself on this issue, First, and foremost, like it or not, nursing need to UNIONIZE ENMASSE, to be able to speak with a unified voice for ourselves, and our profession. Spare me the, "I can speak for myself, and I prefer to deal with management my own way, blah, blah, blah". Ad Nauseaum.

What, exactly have you as one person accomplished with all of your self meetings with administration? Is your salary and benefits, measuably better than your co-workers are? Are your working conditions any better than your co-workers are? Can you refuse another patient if you believe that your patient load is too high? Or are your afraid to utilize any of this, because you know in your heart, if you speak up like you want/need to, you will be out of a job?

Spare me the martyr mary anecdotes, that amount to nothing.

Nursing needs to immediately start billing for our professional services. LIke ALL OF THE OTHER HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS DO!!

I will also say again, that as long as nursings' professional practice is rolled into the room rate, housekeeping, and the complimentary roll of toilet paper, we will always be seen on the negative side of the balance sheet. Our professional services are not money makers for the hospital (or so they telll us), and we have no worth. We are not allowed to bill for our services, so that we can prove our worth.

Next time you are told that your patient gave you negative remarks on the Press Gainey nonsense, ask the hospital, if you are so unimportant, why are they asking the patient to rate the, "customer service provided them"? Do they ask the patients about the housekeeper? Probably not. But they ask about the quality of the nursing care provided.

If you are that unimportant, that these stupid surveys are going to be used for hospital reimbursement, why are nurses on the bottom of the food chain? I would think, that a service that is going to make or break a hospital financially, would be provided with everything that they need to allow the hospital to score as high as possible. You might try to point this out at your next contract negotations. I don't believe that any of the CEOs, administrators, etc, contribute anything to positive patient outcomes, and they seem to get the bulk of financial compensation. Why is that??

JMHO and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Somewhere in the PACNW

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

I totally understand your "two cents." Now that you are done venting, are YOU going to start the petition???

If you are pertaining to my post, I'm not attempting to be a "martyr Mary" however, the way I (and I can only speak for myself) have dictated my nursing career have been satisfied. If no one else will be in my side when I ask about salaries, and want to change our livelihood, then I can it DO what I can do..again, I ask, ARE YOU STARTING THE PETITION???? If not, you sound very hollow about how I handle MY career. Talk to me about what I do when YOU ARE READY to start a MOVEMENT. You have NO IDEA how active I am in improving nurse salaries...behind this screen name is a person who IS TRYING to change the profession. If YOU are ready, then LET'S GO!!! :)

And fir proposing for billing services, I get billed for my services...I have my own contracting business. We do get billed, IMO...should we get billed more??? ABSOLUTELY.

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