Do You take your patients out for smoke breaks? - page 7
We do, but I don't agree with it.... Read More
Dec 30, '06[QUOTE=RN(MH);1913256 ...polution from car fumes that is in the air all the time. Then there is the pesticides that is on our food...mobile phones and brain tumours, electicity pylons and cancer... But these patients are adults, and as such have a right to make an informed decision, and to deny them this is an infringement of their human rights. QUOTE]
Cars and pesticides are a danger to the human race. Mobile phones and electrical pylons do not have a link to cancer. You get more radiation from the sun!
The patients are adults, but for the present they are in a HEALTH care facility! If you really cared about their health you wouldn't be taking them out. As a patient in my hospital bed you wouldn't be available to me and you'd come back smelling like an ash tray.
Smoking is a personal right but not a legal right in the US.. The right to smoke has never been upheld in a court of law. And if you are hired by a company that doesn't allow smoking and you do you can legally be fired.:angryfire
Jan 5, '07I do not. Now I work in an ER in a smoke free facility. But I didn't take them out to smoke even before the ban. It is a huge liability/safety issue for staff and patients. We have had staff members assaulted in our department by MH and other patients. Last year a 72 year old man (cute little grampy with alzheimers) nearly strangled a staff member who was in a charting room that was in the back of the departmant... she was saved when he knocked over a chair and a tech heard the ruckus. I certainly would not go outside into the parking lot...after all patients are basically strangers, some more than others.
Legally I would be very surprised if the hospital could make you do it as part of a care plan.... And as for "it calms them down" what if they had rather have a beer??? They are both legal addictions...
Years ago in a VA hospital on a long term unit we occassionally provided patients with alcohol which I thought was odd as so many were alcoholic but the doctors actually wrote orders for " 1 beer @ bedtime"
Now I might be more tempted to take them out for a margarita and some chips and salsa.
Jan 15, '07Ambulatory patients can take themselves out, otherwise no. If a patient needs help getting into a wheelchair but can take himself out, I'll help him into it if I have time, but it's pretty low on my priority list.
Jan 15, '07at my one hospital, the campus went all non-smoking, so it's not going to be an issue there anymore.
Jan 18, '07I do because I smoke. I know its bad for you!!! Some pt's have been smoking all their lives Should we take yet another thing away from them?Yes I know (for thier own good!) We all have our vices.
Jan 19, '07Just to let you know I do smoke but because the new facility I work for is non smoking I don't smoke during my shifts. However I will also tell you that I have become a nervous weak since cutting down on smoking. So I too am doing it the old fashioned way but it is way hard man.
Feb 2, '07our facility is going smoke free, i can't wait, somehow the people who smoke always take the longest breaks..and are the only ones who go far enough away so that they don't get called for phone calls or lights.
i refuse to take anyone out to smoke, was once ordered to by a doc (who smoked) and he had promised a pt that she would be allowed to go out to smoke once a shift (i worked nights), i told him he should plan to come by to take her himself since it was his promise (and he actually did)
last year our hospital changed its policy which had required a docs order permitting a pt to go out to smoke to an Rn must assess the pt each and every time they wanted to go out and chart of course, this was because the docs didn't want to take the responsiblity in case something happened ( and they think I do?), so when a pt asks me I say and chart " pt requests to go out and smoke ,made aware of health hazard associated with smoking, pt instructed to remain on unit for her own health" Then if she goes out anyway i simply chart that she left the unit without permission...she's not my prisoner or anything, but I'm not going to help OR put myself in danger. I do think we will have a lot more bathroom smokers after the ban starts, but I plan to call security for that.
Feb 2, '07Well, in Ohio we have a no smoking ban now, so obviously no smoke breaks for our patients... Plus, I work in the ICU, so there is no way they are leaving their rooms for something like.