Do Nurses Earn Big Money? You Decide. - page 28

Am I the only one who becomes at least mildly irritated whenever a random individual finds out that someone is a nurse and proceeds to say, “You’re rolling in the big bucks!” To keep things honest, I’ll recall a few... Read More

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    Quote from doeRAYmee
    I have a relative who is a director at a top 10 hospital and she has an ASN. And my old boss at the top 10 hospital I worked at has an ASN. So no it can happen in the hospital setting too.

    I have more examples but those stick out the most.

    Yes doeRAYmee, but what I have said is that you won't see this "a lot in the hospital setting," which you will not. I looking at it from a normal distribution curve.

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    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    I personally think it is rude to ask people how much they make or to make comments about someone else's pay.
    Yes, I agree. But apparently he was some young kid. I'm wondering, you'd think he'd quote some rate or salary to a teacher, a physician, a social worker, pharmacists, physical or occupational therapist he was waiting on? What about that flight attendant?
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    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    I personally think it is rude to ask people how much they make or to make comments about someone else's pay.
    Quote from samadams8
    Yes, I agree. But apparently he was some young kid. I'm wondering, you'd think he'd quote some rate or salary to a teacher, a physician, a social worker, pharmacists, physical or occupational therapist he was waiting on? What about that flight attendant?
    Yes, he was a youngish guy...late teens to early 20s, definitely no older than mid 20s, and dollar signs were all that seemed to come to mind when he thought of nursing. Then again, when I earned minimum wage as a young person in fast food and retail many moons ago, I personally thought nursing was the occupation of dollar signs. So I cannot blame him.
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    I find your comments too funny ! My friend just graduated in Feb. 2012 and became a charge nurse in July making $55 an hour plus overtime. You can also be a travel nurse. My other friend in home health made $130K last year. I do not and will not let anyone belittle me or scream in my face or I call security...case closed. That is not why I am there. I am reading about how a woman slammed a nurse into a wall. HELLO ! That's called assult.
    It just seems that nurses are always going out of their way to justify there position. You are there for the patient not the other way around. You can always transfer into another dept. if you aren't happy. A lot of jobs don't have that option and
    do not have sick days or holiday pay and deal with a lot of the same issues of people being irate over something. You just have to be smarter and laugh it off.
    Last edit by Zenyatta321 on Dec 2, '12 : Reason: misspell
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    What's too funny? Your friend graduated about ten months ago, so someone dumped charge on him or her (kind of early for a 10 mo. new grad). Good chance this is a fluke, or not altogether straightforward, or no one wanted to deal with charge. (The main reason for the latter, should any newbie want to know, is extreme issues of liability.)

    Can we not talk anecdotal outliers and start talking by way of at least basic statistics 101--normal curve of distribution across the country?

    Listing outliers that are are far out from the normal distribution curve is like talking about how many people you know personally that saw a shooting star last night across the world.

    Travel nursing also wants strong clinical experience; however, there are the Fast Staff positions, where traveller's cross a picket line. Still, those are differenct scenarios, have their own problems, and are outliers.

    Home health--$130,000? Well depending on who you work for, the pay rate is generally significantly lower than in the hospital. I know a guy that works HH for a local hospital, and he milks things there. It will catch up with him eventually, if it hasn't already.

    But depending, $50 per hour * 50 hours per week will get you at $130,000.



    Please, I beg all legitimate allnurse members that are making this please sign in now!!!!!

    I did know a guy in a pediatric ICU who tried to always look like a hero and stayed late shift in and shift out--came in early a lot, and somehow, it was never questioned on the clock. Tons of hospitals will call the mgr on the carpet for this kind of abuse. The NM overlooked, b/c he basically functioned as, well, in the vernacular, her "b#*&C and spy.

    I saw right through his antics, and I thought he was being fiscally irresponsible. Don't know if the fellow still works there, maybe so, but the NM does not. Mgt moves around a lot in critical care. He wasn't a bad guy. It was just that he was about his bottom line, even when it may not have been in the best interest of the patient or the hospital or those paying in to a limited system. And being fiscally irresponsible with your hours is problematic for institutions, especially in today's world.

    Regardless, these examples are about OUTLIERS. You have to compare based on the mean that is applicable across the board, or the discussion goes no where, b/c the outliers are only what they are--outliers.
    Last edit by samadams8 on Dec 2, '12
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    Quote from Zenyatta321
    I find your comments too funny ! My friend just graduated in Feb. 2012 and became a charge nurse in July making $55 an hour plus overtime. You can also be a travel nurse. My other friend in home health made $130K last year. I do not and will not let anyone belittle me or scream in my face or I call security...case closed. That is not why I am there. I am reading about how a woman slammed a nurse into a wall. HELLO ! That's called assult.
    It just seems that nurses are always going out of their way to justify there position. You are there for the patient not the other way around. You can always transfer into another dept. if you aren't happy. A lot of jobs don't have that option and
    do not have sick days or holiday pay and deal with a lot of the same issues of people being irate over something. You just have to be smarter and laugh it off.
    Yes the charge nurse offer happened to my wife in less than a year also. I know a couple of people thats happened to within 2 years. Managment understands the difference between the roles. People with managment experience or ability is easily spotted.

    There is a reason so many people are going into nursing....it's because they are fairly compesated for what they do. It is so easy to get a two year degree, and then take a few BS leadership/ theory classes in about a year to get your BSN while working. For the amount of money offered, it is a top career fro the money.
    While you do seem to hear a lot of complaints about not making better pay for their experience....none of them are trying new career paths. Wonder why that is? Life is tough no matter where you work.
    Last edit by eroc on Dec 2, '12
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    Quote from eroc
    Yes the charge nurse offer happened to my wife in less than a year also. Managment understands the difference between the roles. People with managment experience or ability is easily spotted.

    There is a reason so many people are going into nursing....it's because they are fairly compesated for what they do.

    There is a sucker born every minute. As I stated:

    "Your friend graduated about ten months ago, so someone dumped charge on him or her (kind of early for a 10 mo. new grad). Good chance this is a fluke, or not altogether straightforward, or no one wanted to deal with charge. (The main reason for the latter, should any newbie want to know, is extreme issues of liability.)


    Also how you mgt a store or production of widgets is not how you manage patient care on a floor. LOL....wow... like every minute one is born.

    Fair compensation is a relative term. You are not looking at the bigger picture, but wow, big surprise there!

    We are looking at the normal distribution curve related to efforts of excellence over a significant span of time, whereby, many a nurse has moved into expert practitioner.

    This as per commuter:

    Quote from TheCommuter
    Then again, when I earned minimum wage as a young person in fast food and retail many moons ago, I personally thought nursing was the occupation of dollar signs.
    It's all relative.

    Back to what's normative and relevant. . .
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    Quote from samadams8
    There is a sucker born every minute. As I stated:

    "Your friend graduated about ten months ago, so someone dumped charge on him or her (kind of early for a 10 mo. new grad). Good chance this is a fluke, or not altogether straightforward, or no one wanted to deal with charge. (The main reason for the latter, should any newbie want to know, is extreme issues of liability.)


    Also how you mgt a store or production of widgets is not how you manage patient care on a floor. LOL....wow... like every minute one is born.

    Fair compensation is a relative term. You are not looking at the bigger picture, but wow, big surprise there!

    We are looking at the normal distribution curve related to efforts of excellence over a significant span of time, whereby, many a nurse has moved into expert practitioner.

    This as per commuter:


    It's all relative.

    Back to what's normative and relevant. . .
    Please do do quote me or refer to me in your posts.
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    Quote from eroc
    Yes the charge nurse offer happened to my wife in less than a year also. I know a couple of people thats happened to within 2 years. Managment understands the difference between the roles. People with managment experience or ability is easily spotted.
    Awww, your wife is just a sucker, according to your little friend here. I guess I am too. I realize one reason why no one with more experience than me wants to be charge. It's probably one of the same reasons why they're still working a med-surg floor after 10-15 years.

    Quote from eroc
    There is a reason so many people are going into nursing....it's because they are fairly compesated for what they do. It is so easy to get a two year degree, and then take a few BS leadership/ theory classes in about a year to get your BSN while working. For the amount of money offered, it is a top career fro the money.
    In my opinion it was quite the value for the money!
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    Yes the charge nurse offer happened to my wife in less than a year also. I know a couple of people thats happened to within 2 years. Managment understands the difference between the roles. People with managment experience or ability is easily spotted.
    *** I remember as a fairly new grad of the hospital's nurse residency program I went through the charge nurse training class and was made night charge. At the time I thought my selection to charge was a compliment. I learned different and now realize I was being taken advantage of.

    There is a reason so many people are going into nursing....it's because they are fairly compesated for what they do.
    *** Well there is also the false and self serving "nursing shortage" propaganda that has been the mantra in main stream media for a couple decades. This false propganda has attracted many people to nursing who otherwise would not have been attracted to it (of course exactly the goal of the false propaganda)

    It is so easy to get a two year degree, and then take a few BS leadership/ theory classes in about a year to get your BSN while working. For the amount of money offered, it is a top career fro the money.
    *** Compairing the education required to gain entrance to the field to the compensation is the wrong way to look at it. More accurate to compair level of responsibiliety to compensation. Seen that way our compensation is inadiquate.
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