Do Nurses Earn Big Money? You Decide. - page 23

Am I the only one who becomes at least mildly irritated whenever a random individual finds out that someone is a nurse and proceeds to say, "You're rolling in the big bucks!" To keep things... Read More

  1. Visit  eroc profile page
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** I don't know how many night shifts you have worked in a large SICU with a very active open heart program at a level 1 trama center but you are mistaken. Nights have nearly as much going on as days with a lot less staff and support to deal with it. Night charge was much harder hence it was dreaded and why I was doing it. the day charge has the advantage of having the NM around to deal with a lot of things. On nights the charge is it, at least at that hospital. Lot's of doctors and lots of highly stressed emergency open heart patient's and trauma patien's families in at all hours.
    Despite having owned my own business and managing employees and despite being an experienced paramedic, I was a new ICU nurse and I wasn't ready to be charge in that kind of unit. I just didn't know it at the time. I shudder to think of the risks I took.
    Maybe that is the difference between a lot of our thoughts. I can respect if you where in a level 1 trama center. That's the same reason many nurses I know avoid the one we have here. So you actually are a rare case. I fully respect your instance as being a set up.
    The level one here goes through nurses like crazy. Most can't handle the stress of it, and couldn't imagine what it would be like to be thrown in to that.
    All majors traumas go straight to that one hospital, and we have approx. 9 hospitals in town.
    I was actually offered a shot at the med flight nurse once I got a year in, along with my paremedic's liscense. But don't forsee taking that route. (yes, I knew the helicopter pilot)
    Last edit by eroc on Dec 3, '12
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  3. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    I do agree about the nursing shortage, there really isn't one where I live. People are struggling to find jobs.
    *** There hasn't been more than very local, very temporary nursing shortages in the 18 years I have been in nursing. There have been times when many, many more jobs were available but that isn't the same as a shortage of trained nurses. Rather an indication of how many nurses were willing to work for the pay and working conditions being offered at a time when there were many other competing oppertunities for nurses.

    The college and universties are pushing their own agenda in more ways than just calling a "nursing shortage"
    *** Colleges and universities aren't even the main propagandists.

    Good point about education. But I still feel the same way. I honestly agree if the world was a better place, it would be great to get paid more. But that's not going to happen and mostly likely is going to get worst for the regular floor nurse.
    *** Well I agree but it's kinda pointing out the obvious.

    Complaining is like beating a dead horse.
    *** Blowing off steam in a group of peers who understand the situation is healthy.

    Simply put... money makes the world go round. Just as much as people want more money in their pocket....corporations want to keep as much as they can in theirs. And with the Nursing shortage not really there, as you pointed out, there is someone in line waiting to take your spot for less money. Like it or hate it...it doesn't matter
    *** Sure but once again kinda pointing out the obvious.

    So yes...right now nurses are fairly compensated.
    *** That nurses wages are unlikely to increase in the forseable future is a fact. That we are fairly compensated is only your opinion.
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    [QUOTE=PMFB-RN;7055694

    *** That nurses wages are unlikely to increase in the forseable future is a fact. That we are fairly compensated is only your opinion.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, everything can be subjective. You have a right to your opinion. Hell, I can't think of one job that I didn't think I deserved more money, especially more than my peers who were doing less work, but getting paid the same. Life does suck. Really...I truely do understand the life is in your hands thing. I do see the picture, just my views go beyond.

    I do forsee wages dropping, as throughout the city here, beneifits are already being cut. It all about supply and demand. Why would you want to hear someone complain, when many others are eager to fill there shoes for less money.
    Honestly, in this economic climate, it is best to keep your head down and your mouth shut, and continue to perform above and beyond. I know what it's like to watch everyone around you get laid off, and your the last one standing. Nurses' salaries are quite atractive to the masses. It is very common to mearly 1/4 of class having students working towards a ASN, while already having a Master' degree in other fields, and even much more with Bachelors
    Last edit by eroc on Dec 3, '12
  5. Visit  eroc profile page
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    Gonna point out the obvious once again..in the terms of subjectivity.

    This thread was started with the question of "do you get tired of people saying nurses making big bucks?" The poster would have no reason the write anything up if the random people did not come up commenting on Nursing salaries.

    So, subjectively, the majority of all people think nurses are fairly compesated. (which is what provoked the write up)

    But you have nurses on the other hand claiming they are not.

    Both are subjective views, but when you compare objectively, there is more of a definate answer.
    And going back to trying to quantify it is going back to a subjective view. I agree life is very important, but people are going to die either way. Not causing death is of the utmost importance, but death is going to happen.

    "Subjective" is a really cool word so that people can voice an opinion. And more often than not objectivity gets tossed to the side when people have biased views.
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  6. Visit  roseonye profile page
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    it makes me sick when people say nurses are rich. a nurse has to work @ least 2 jobs or multiple OT t make those big bucks and you still have to pay back taxes at the end of the year when uncle sam come for you. another thing that makes me especially angry is when men marry a woman because she is a nurse and asummes RN's make lots of dough.
    Last edit by TheCommuter on Dec 3, '12 : Reason: TOS
  7. Visit  francoml profile page
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    I make no apologies for wanting to be a millionaire by the time I am 35. As a nurse you can get there making 70,000 a year, it just takes determination and drive! You need to be savvy when it comes to investing and willing to take a risk! I have two homes paid off; one worth 155,000 and the other worth 125,000 because I was willing to take a risk. I have poured everything I have into paying off the mortgages and renting out my properties for ~30,000 year. I don't mean to brag I am just talking about this because I want people to realize that you dont have to just be "middle class." Every house you buy and then subsequently pay off and then rent you exponentially increase your income. At this rate I will be able to pay off my third house in less than 3 years, my 4th house in less than 2 years, my 5th in less that 1.5, and my sixth in less than 1 year. After that you can pay off a 150,000 house in less that 1 year in cash NO MORTGAGE NEEDED!!!!

    I love my patients and give everything I have to give them the best care possible. I just refuse to be average!!! you can do this too just stay focused and know what you want for your future. Don't spend your hard earned money on cars, clothes and going out! Make your money work for you and you will reap the rewards!!!
  8. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from eroc
    So, subjectively, the majority of all people think nurses are fairly compesated. (which is what provoked the write up)
    *** What is the evidence that the "majority" of all people feel nurses are fairly compensated? Several people sharing experiences of members of the public expressing admiration for nurses pay is not evidence of what a "majority of all people" feel. I personaly have never experienced any random person commenting on nurses wages in public or private.
  9. Visit  Sehille4774 profile page
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    Quote from eroc
    Very true...everyone is going to suffer dearly for other peoples poor choices.
    Every great empire has fallen. It's a shame people hold on to the "it's going to be ok" attitude.
    Meh. Its not so much about clinging to false illusions "Its going to be ok (regarding the economy)"

    To me, I choose to have an optimistic attitude becasue of a couple reasons:

    1. Noone KNOWS the future...it could end up all ok..so much of what you hear is speculation or best guesses.

    2. So what if we are heading into a "great depression" type of scenario..not much that you or I can do to about it...being scared and miserable about the possible financial collapse is not going to change anything...so why not enjoy the good while you can?

    3. Understand that if inflation goes crazy and even a loaf of bread costs 4000$ overnight...no amount of preparation is going to save you..what ever you managed to get in your bank account isnt going to go very far..but it happened before and people got through it..so will we.

    Ehh. Sorry to single you out. So tired of the pervasive "Doom and Gloom" pessimistic attitude in this country....I believe that makes it worse.

    Sure..we need to get our act together but thats a whooole other topic..as is this post..opps.
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    Quote from Sehille4774
    Meh. Its not so much about clinging to false illusions "Its going to be ok (regarding the economy)"

    To me, I choose to have an optimistic attitude becasue of a couple reasons:

    1. Noone KNOWS the future...it could end up all ok..so much of what you hear is speculation or best guesses.

    2. So what if we are heading into a "great depression" type of scenario..not much that you or I can do to about it...being scared and miserable about the possible financial collapse is not going to change anything...so why not enjoy the good while you can?

    3. Understand that if inflation goes crazy and even a loaf of bread costs 4000$ overnight...no amount of preparation is going to save you..what ever you managed to get in your bank account isnt going to go very far..but it happened before and people got through it..so will we.

    Ehh. Sorry to single you out. So tired of the pervasive "Doom and Gloom" pessimistic attitude in this country....I believe that makes it worse.

    Sure..we need to get our act together but thats a whooole other topic..as is this post..opps.
    No worries, and that's what I'm refering to... good example.
    Last edit by eroc on Dec 4, '12
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** What is the evidence that the "majority" of all people feel nurses are fairly compensated? Several people sharing experiences of members of the public expressing admiration for nurses pay is not evidence of what a "majority of all people" feel. I personaly have never experienced any random person commenting on nurses wages in public or private.
    Nurses are a very small group of people. The middle class is majority.
    But you got me...I would have to find soild numbers to prove this to you, and it will have to be considered subjective until I show you the evidence, huh? I thought common sense of the reasoning of the several people posting this and the huge move into schools, specfically nursing, would be enough to use deductive reasoning. (As I would think I don't need to show you the total numbers of Nurses versus the total number of "Middle class" here in America as evidence) I know you don't think all these people want to do it for anything less than the money...maybe a few.
    And yes, people are starting their education in Nursing like it's going out of style. 5 new AsN programs opened up here in town in the least year, not counting the approx 10 that were already here. And the new schools filled quickly. Can't imagine what these people are going to be willing to do to land a job.

    But your right I need solid evidence..you did get me.
    And of coarse you know I'm not going to spend the time to do this...touche
    You are actually quite fun to go back and forth with.
    Last edit by eroc on Dec 4, '12
  12. Visit  Kabin profile page
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    I recall my last semester of nursing school and one classmate was talking about buying an "Escalade with a kicking sound system." I didn't have the heart to straighten her out. I think it all had to do with being young and naive.
  13. Visit  TheCommuter profile page
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    Quote from roseonye
    another thing that makes me especially angry is when men marry a woman because she is a nurse and asummes RN's make lots of dough.
    I'm sure you've heard of the phrase: "Nothing's better than a nurse with the purse."

    Yes, there are some small-minded men out there who prey on female nurses because they actually think our pockets are overflowing with cash.
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  14. Visit  DoeRN profile page
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    Quote from TheCommuter
    I'm sure you've heard of the phrase: "Nothing's better than a nurse with the purse."

    Yes, there are some small-minded men out there who prey on female nurses because they actually think our pockets are overflowing with cash.
    I've never heard this phrase but it makes sense. I have met many nurses who have been taken advantage of because of the so called dollar signs. I went out on a date with a guy who kept asking me about my work hours and even asked how much I made! Needless to say there was no date number 2. I kept asking him what he did for a living and he gave me a vague answer saying he was a professional student but didn't tell me what he was going to school for. So yeah he met the wrong nurse.

    I make a decent living but boy oh boy do I have to work hard to make that living being a floor nurse. I have arthritis and back problems already and I'm in my 30's. So the so called lots of dough we make I can not enjoy because I'm so tired on my off days.


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