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| No. 40 | 
Jan 30, 2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by ADNRN
I don't care what you write about me or what you think about me. And I will not defend my position. I write what I write, and it stands as it is. You can interpret it any way you want; it doesn't change a thing.
You're a STUDENT, correct? Trying to become a nurse?
You have a long way to go and with that attitude, it's gonna be a long journey.
You also started a thread "Philosophy of Nursing", where you posted your "own" philosophy, correct?
I think you need to review your own philosophy as you stated it, because it sure doesn't jive with your comments in THIS thread.
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Jan 30, 2004, 09:10 PM
Moondancer, it has been my experience that many people have a certain philosophy they believe in, except when it concerns _____ (you fill in the blanks).
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Jan 30, 2004, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by fergus51
Moondancer, it has been my experience that many people have a certain philosophy they believe in, except when it concerns _____ (you fill in the blanks).
You're absolutely right Fergus...in fact, I just finished reading that other thread; it's certainly enlightening and explains a lot!  | | No. 43 |
Jan 30, 2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by moondancer
You're a STUDENT, correct? Trying to become a nurse?
You have a long way to go and with that attitude, it's gonna be a long journey.
You also started a thread "Philosophy of Nursing", where you posted your "own" philosophy, correct?
I think you need to review your own philosophy as you stated it, because it sure doesn't jive with your comments in THIS thread.
That's right: I'm a nursing student trying to become a nurse. And you say I have a bad attitude. Why? because I think abortion is murder? Because I believe in advocating for the life of the unborn human being? Because I consider the mentality of those who would commit abortion to be antisocial? Maybe my attitude is wrong in your eyes, but in my neck of the United States, in my religious culture, and in my particular nursing class, my opinion is the majority opinion. So why don't we just drop this issue and you believe what you want and try to advance it, and I'll believe what I want, and I will try to advance it, and in the end, wisdom will be proved right by her actions. Hmmm?
As for my philosophy, I don't see the connection? Because I state my opinion, I am violating my belief that I am one with other human beings? I argue in my own head every day, so what? How does that violate my philosophy? I am one with the psychopaths as much as I am with the insane as much as I am with the cardiac patient or you. I don't get what you're getting at.
| | No. 44 |
Jan 30, 2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by ADNRN
That's right: I'm a nursing student trying to become a nurse. And you say I have a bad attitude. Why? because I think abortion is murder? Because I believe in advocating for the life of the unborn human being? Because I consider the mentality of those who would commit abortion to be antisocial? Maybe my attitude is wrong in your eyes, but in my neck of the United States, in my religious culture, and in my particular nursing class, my opinion is the majority opinion. So why don't we just drop this issue and you believe what you want and try to advance it, and I'll believe what I want, and I will try to advance it, and in the end, wisdom will be proved right by her actions. Hmmm?
As for my philosophy, I don't see the connection? Because I state my opinion, I am violating my belief that I am one with other human beings? I argue in my own head every day, so what? How does that violate my philosophy? I am one with the psychopaths as much as I am with the insane as much as I am with the cardiac patient or you. I don't get what you're getting at.
As long as what you think doesn't overflow to your career...
| | No. 45 |
Jan 30, 2004, 09:28 PM
I guess to me, if nursing and love become sysnonomous, then that would preclude angry judgements towards your patients.
| | No. 46 |
Jan 30, 2004, 09:35 PM
Updated
Jan 30, 2004 at 09:46 PM by SmilingBluEyes
Originally posted by ADNRN
That's right: I'm a nursing student trying to become a nurse. And you say I have a bad attitude. Why? because I think abortion is murder? Because I believe in advocating for the life of the unborn human being? Because I consider the mentality of those who would commit abortion to be antisocial? Maybe my attitude is wrong in your eyes, but in my neck of the United States, in my religious culture, and in my particular nursing class, my opinion is the majority opinion. So why don't we just drop this issue and you believe what you want and try to advance it, and I'll believe what I want, and I will try to advance it, and in the end, wisdom will be proved right by her actions. Hmmm?
As for my philosophy, I don't see the connection? Because I state my opinion, I am violating my belief that I am one with other human beings? I argue in my own head every day, so what? How does that violate my philosophy? I am one with the psychopaths as much as I am with the insane as much as I am with the cardiac patient or you. I don't get what you're getting at.
Oh my where do I begin? You are something else. I think your views are monstrous. No, NOT that you are anti-abortion ( I respect that), but you would JUDGE EVERYONE by your unmoving and unreasonable standards! That you would dare say people who have an abortion are "psychopaths". I think you need to look in the mirror long and hard. Yes, I do.
And I hope you never let them be known to your future patients IF you finish and become a nurse. Funny thing, after nearly 7 years of nursing, what I have learned is there is NO set rule that applies to all people and that being this judgmental only reflects on the kind of person YOU are, not those you *JUDGE*.
I hope you learn. But I doubt it. I have run across your type before, and rarely do such leopards change their spots. I spent 9 years in the "bible belt" so I know what I am talking about here. Thing is, I respect anti-abortion beliefs and religious preferences, but honey you stepped over the line saying they are psychopathic when women seek abortion. That is where I have such heartburn with you.
You are scary; yes I say it once again. I believe you are dangerous. Personally I pray you reconsider entering nursing. PLEASE DO!!!! I don't want the likes of people like you hurting already vulnerable patients or poisoning coworkers with such viewpoints. At least for heaven's sake stay out of OB and GYN please, for the PATIENTs' sakes!!!!!! I am gonna stop cause I am in close danger of violating TOS here, and you are SO VERY NOT worth it, that much I KNOW!!!!  | | No. 47 |
Jan 30, 2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by ADNRN
That's right: I'm a nursing student trying to become a nurse. And you say I have a bad attitude. Why? because I think abortion is murder? Because I believe in advocating for the life of the unborn human being? Because I consider the mentality of those who would commit abortion to be antisocial? Maybe my attitude is wrong in your eyes, but in my neck of the United States, in my religious culture, and in my particular nursing class, my opinion is the majority opinion. So why don't we just drop this issue and you believe what you want and try to advance it, and I'll believe what I want, and I will try to advance it, and in the end, wisdom will be proved right by her actions. Hmmm?
As for my philosophy, I don't see the connection? Because I state my opinion, I am violating my belief that I am one with other human beings? I argue in my own head every day, so what? How does that violate my philosophy? I am one with the psychopaths as much as I am with the insane as much as I am with the cardiac patient or you. I don't get what you're getting at.
Sorry, ADN, if you read my post, I never state that you have a "bad" attitude. I simply state that you HAVE an attitude, and you do indeed. You are certainly welcome to your opinion about abortion, as I am as well. What I think most of us object is calling someone who's had an abortion a "psychopath".
If your journey in nursing school continues, you will learn that this is a big no-no. You simply do not call people names b/k they have done something that YOU disprove of. At least, if you want this to be a long lasting career. You will, in your nursing journey, run into and perhaps have to treat pt.'s that have done despicable things. It is NOT your job to judge these people. It is your job to provide care to these individuals.
The very fact that you can so carelessly throw out a statement like that, really does go against your own proposed nursing "philosophy". "Nurse = Love"....not very loving, now is it?
I'm not trying to argue w/you, ADN,but your comments come off very flippant and arrogant. And that doesn't go over very well with people who ARE RN's. Or for caring human beings, for that matter...
| | No. 48 |
Jan 30, 2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by LPN2Be2004
As long as what you think doesn't overflow to your career...
Well, I'll never work at Planned Parenthood, and I won't work in OB, so I guess I don't really have to worry about it. But thanks for the priceless advice.
| | No. 49 |
Jan 30, 2004, 10:00 PM
ADNRN-or actually it should be "ADNRN to be". I just wanted to respond to your comments....
It seems as though you have a very hateful attitude towards abortion... and while your opinion is welcome and many others on this board agree that abortion is not for them...you need to realize that only you can make the correct decision for yourself. And while the sharing of ideas is welcomed, name calling and harsh judgements really are not.
To call a woman a "pyschopath" for having an abortion, which is what I think you were saying is not nursing, is not nurturing, is not sharing ideas and is quite a far cry from professionalism. And not to be gender biased, but you as a male -which I gathered from your other posts - although are welcome to have opinions, you can truly not understand unless you undergo a miraculous gender change and somehow gain a uterus, ovaries, and a cervix that are functioning....sorry end of story there.
And I am just wondering, according to your views, what about the "pyschopath dead beat dads" that are in the woman's life until she has the kid, and then disappear w/o a trace??? What about those pyschopath men that rape little girls, yes, 10, 11, 12 year old girls and leave them as children bearing children??
Now, I would just like to add that my vote is against abortion. I would never have one, never recommend one, never participate in one..... however, I would never judge, never name-call, or falsely generalize. That is NOT the role of the nurse.... and as someone who is striving to become one, I hope you soon realize this or you will be waking up to some harsh realities of law suits if you open your mouth to the wrong person.......
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