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| No. 20 | 
Jan 29, 2004, 10:46 PM
you are right, PP is there for these gals and they are VERY nonjudgemental. Too bad, when girls do this, like pointed out earlier, their mental state is NOT shall we say, normal. So they don't often reason well. It's just plain sad all the way around. Very sad.
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Jan 29, 2004, 11:32 PM
 license to reproduce? Originally posted by BadBird
What amazes me is that you need a license to fish, hunt and even haul garbage but any moron can have a child to abuse or kill.
I am starting to think that beofre people can reproduce they should have to go thru the hoops we did when trying to adopt. These morons just pop em out and we had to "prove" we were able financiall, physically, familywise able and fit to parent. If that were the case about half expectant parents would be disqualified.
Laura (childless and NOT by choice)
| | No. 22 |
Jan 29, 2004, 11:55 PM
 abandoned babies
Here in Ohio you can drop the baby off at a hospital or police station( I think) and walk away with no questions and no legal problems I think that this is a good thing.
| | No. 23 |
Jan 30, 2004, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
Could it POSSIBLY BE this baby was born stillborn, too, to an equally-terrified young mother who had no resources and FELT , at least in her mind, she had NO WHERE TO TURN? Maybe it's possible. Am I horrified? yes. AM I sorry? yes. But do we KNOW HER SIDE OF THIS TRAGIC STORY? NO!
I believe that this baby was found alive, not still born. Last I heard on the news, he was doing well. I do agree though that anyone who does something like this needs help of one kind or another. I just hopes she gets it.
A
| | No. 24 |
Jan 30, 2004, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by fergus51
Do you mean you would think she was a "garden variety psychopath" if she had an abortion (rather than giving birth and leaving the infant to die)?
I think you should interpret what I wrote in any way that strikes you as true.
| | No. 25 |
Jan 30, 2004, 08:13 AM
Angel is right..
The baby is alive..... the mother has still not come forward
| | No. 26 |
Jan 30, 2004, 08:19 AM
This sort of horrible thing has been the norm for milenia in many cultures, and continues to be so in many other countries more so than our own..Who knows the psychological and physiological reasons why people, who normally (often) would never consider such an act, do so? I feel so badly for these children, but can't begin to understand what drives their parents to do such things...
| | No. 27 |
Jan 30, 2004, 08:22 AM
As badly as we and society may feel for a mother "without" resources, that doesn't mean she can't hand the new born child to someone at some point and tell them she can't handle taking care of it, whether that be a family member, friend or someone she will run into at some point....Just because the great resources aren't overflowing does not excuse someone for discarding a person like so much trash...EVEN if that "mother" hasn't made the emotional connection that the infant is a person...That is simply my opinion.....If it were an animal, more resources and charges would be assembled against the person involved, unfortunately, animals these days have more rights and protection that newborns tossed out into the street ....Sad and tragic all the way around.
| | No. 28 |
Jan 30, 2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
Here's another spin that is bound to get me flamed. IT'S OK I AM A BIG GIRL and I have my suit on:
In college I knew a girl who became pregnant. Now it was not obvious to her friends and aquaintances in college, she was very thin and managed to camoflage it in big clothes etc. I lived in the same dorm as she and yet did NOT KNOW SHE WAS PREGNANT, either. Well, time came the girl went into labor.
Shockingly, She labored alone in her dorm room (she had a private room,so no roommate to discover her even) and delivered a stillborn baby. Not knowing what to do, I am certain, and probably in shock, the girl wrapped the dead child in sheets and tossed the body down the trash chute.
Yes, the next day the baby was found. And soon enough, they were able to find out what happened--- as I came to learn---- this gal developed some serious complications from her unattended birth.
She was 18. She was alone. She was 300 miles from home. No parents there for her in the aftermath, which tells me they probably were not there for her to go to in the first place. NO boy friend in sight. Don't know what happened there. Should she have gone to PP or some other "crisis center"? No doubt, but for whatever reason, she did not. Fear, ignorance, I am not sure.But it was a sad story.
Do I feel horror at this story? yes. Do I feel sympathy for this girl? Oh yes, I do. I don't even know the story of the conception; maybe the pregnancy was result of rape, for all I know. SHE HAS A STORY SHE DID NOT GET TO TELL, is what I saying...it was sad. All the papers detailed was the story of the baby in the trash chute and who the mother was and that the baby was, in fact, dead when he ( I dinstinctly remember them saying it was a BOY), was put there. Nothing about HER and her mental state or even how she was doing after recovery. This girl wound up in a psychiatric ward for a while after this incident, and to this day, I have no idea what became of her. Now, knowing PERSONALLY the story I told you, I have some questions in my mind before I convict the unknown mother of this poor dead baby:
Could it POSSIBLY BE this baby was born stillborn, too, to an equally-terrified young mother who had no resources and FELT , at least in her mind, she had NO WHERE TO TURN? Maybe it's possible. Am I horrified? yes. AM I sorry? yes. But do we KNOW HER SIDE OF THIS TRAGIC STORY? NO!
SO before we crucify her in our minds, let us be mindful we don't know the whole story. We don't even know if the baby was born alive before it was tragically "dumped". Let's try to remember there is always more than one side to story and how much the media LOVES to SHOCK and HORRIFY. After all, it sells newspapers, right??????
I am waiting to hear "the rest of the story" before I lay judgement on this girl. I know not *her* story.
I too want to hear the whole story. After the shock of hearing such a terrible thing I wonder what went so wrong for the baby's mother to do such a thing. Was she young without a clue about what to do? What was her physical, emotional state after giving birth? Did she panic?
I think it is a great idea as one of the poster's informed us to have a safe place to for a newborn such as a hospital or police station that the mother can drop the baby off until her mental state has improved or to be placed for adoption. It is not the best situation in the word but certainly better than having babies abandoned in freezing ditches.
| | No. 29 |
Jan 30, 2004, 09:04 AM
Updated
Jan 30, 2004 at 09:10 AM by SmilingBluEyes
Originally posted by ADNRN
I think you should interpret what I wrote in any way that strikes you as true.
I think you are scary.  And you are a nurse. Heinous commentary .....Even more frightening to me.
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