I was looking the the other Disaster/Pandemic thread that Florida1 started. She mentioned that after the hurricanes, that they had problems getting basic supplies and food stores were often closed for weeks after the storm.
That concerns me. I wonder in case of disasters like hurricanes, earthquakes and pandemics if the nurses who work in the area have problems like that. I'd be worried about leaving my family if there was no heat or electric. After loosing electric in the ice storms in the Carolinas a few years back, my husband bought us a generator. I try to keep enough gas stored so that I could run that and maybe have an extra tank of gas for getting back and forth to work, if things were shut down. I never want to wait in the cold on those gas lines again; or have to risk driving around to find necessities!
What disasters have you been through? What lessons did you learn about what things would make life easier if it happens again to you? What can we learn from your experience, and how can we prepare for so we dont have to go through th esame problems you did?
Where there any sepcial tricks or issues that came up that helped you at work? Any special problems that nurses in disasters face?
I have a confession- my home first aid kit is pretty anemic right now
DH burned his hand prety badly at work last week. I hadnt checked my kit in awhile, and was shocked to see how low I was on some stuff. I only had one roll banfage and had to make a run to WallyWorld the next day! If the stores were shut or the roads iced in or otherwise impassible that would have been an issue. Maybe not life threatening- but its a small example of how not being well prepared can be a problem.
I'd have been so embarrased to admit to hubby I couldnt take care of it, or come thru when he needed me to.
What do you do to prepare? I'm going to restock my kit, and get some more OTC stuff to keep on hand too. What else should I be thinking about?
Feb 4, '07
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These are delicious! http://www.rightfoods.com/store.php?...9c024bf76783e9
I have a gas stove and a charcoal BBQ outside. Since 50 pound bags of pinto beans and rice are a major part of our plan this thread has me thinking of getting another camp stove. We no longer have one.
Those look simple enough for kids to prepare. That might be important in an emergency. I would want things to be simple for them, and hopefully they would like this sort of food. Looks really good to me.
I love pinto beans but have not seen any place locally that offers that quantity. If you need a good rice, bean, and cheese casserole recipe, let me know. It's yummy.
We found whole powdered eggs from Honeyville, online. For the vegetarians, you can get unflavored vegetable protein chunks (eek!) from there. Vegetarians have to eat, too.
You can even get canned butter and cheese online. Or you could get ghee, clarified butter, in glass jars on the shelf where your grocery has ethnic food.
My best and considered purchases are my tins of cookies that the stores were trying to get rid of after Xmas. Comfort food. Speaking of comfort,
there is a biscuit type mix that already contains eggs, has no transfats, just have to add water. This is easy. I can do this... Who makes this? Kurtz or something like that, I think. I don't want to work too hard for comfort during an emergency. Hot chocolate mixes. I also have jars and bags of different kinds of nuts, very nutritious. Teas, lots of bottles of fruit juices especially cranberry mixes (hopefully helpful as an antiviral). Stackable spring water in my basement since we have no well. Wasn't water an issue in New Orleans and Florida? It always is during an emergency. We have to have it. Vitamins, absolutely if we have to eat canned goods for awhile. Oatmeal, flour, sugar, olive oil, peanut butter, I guess I have a grocery store in my basement. Let's not forget pet food, and pet supplies. Toilet paper, get more than you need. Plastic bags.
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Feb 6, '07
Thank you, FlaMedic for the essay, the wonderful graphs, and for making these mitigation strategies by the CDC/gov't more comprehensible:
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Ideally, we’d have a well-matched vaccine to distribute prior to any outbreak, but that is unlikely to happen. In fact, any significant quantities of vaccines would be unavailable during the first 6 months of a pandemic. Our second line of defense, antiviral medications, are also in short supply. All that are left are NPI’s: Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions.
Influenza...left unchecked, would spread rapidly through any community. The greater the number of ill individuals at any given time, the greater the burden that will be placed on medical services, and the greater the strain that will be placed on society in general. Spreading out the infections over time, even if the total number of people infected isn’t appreciably lower, might prove advantageous.
Last edit by indigo girl on Feb 6, '07
Feb 10, '07
Thanks to LMonty911 and other colleagues for putting this list together.
30 Day Comprehensive Disaster/Pandemic Preparation List
Disclaimer: This list has been created as an aid for individuals in the creation of a personal stockpile in the event of a natural disaster. Please take the time to stockpile all things you deem necessary if such an event were to occur. This list may or may not satisfy all of your needs.
1 Gallon Per Person Per Day minimum. This amount allows for drinking and food prep. Allow extra 2+ gallons for personal hygiene, washing dishes and clothes.
Canned Food Items: 20 cans assorted per small family (4 people); double for large family
Canned Vegetables: 30 cans assorted per small family (4 people); double for large family
o Green Beans
o Mixed Vegetables
Dried / Canned Fruit/Peanuts/Nuts; 5 lbs dried or 6 – 12 cans small family, 12-16 large family
Canned Meat: 20 cans per small family < 4, double for larger family >4 persons
Dry Milk: large box or several small cans if no small children or frequent milk drinkers and used for cooking only, increase if family needs require.
Pasta: 5 pounds dry weight
Salt, spices, condiments as preferred
Sugar or alternative sweetner, 5 lbs. or equivalent per small family, increase in large family or if frequently used
Coffee Tea, chocolate, drink mixes, etc. as preferred
Canned or single serve puddings and similar desert items, hard candy, or similar comfort foods and “treats” if funds allow or Cancel
Oatmeal, other hot or cold cereals per preference
Flour; 5 lb bag, increase if used frequently in cooking/baking; yeast if bread baking
Peanut Butter/ Jelly: Large jar each small family, double or triple depending on family size and preference
Crackers, Plain (for sandwiches and snacks) 1 large
box per person
Spaghetti or pasta sauce; 4-8 jars or cans
Baby formula and food, if needed
Thermometer (one per person if possible)
Usual Prescription medicines: 1 month minimum supply (3+ months preferred-contact physican immediately, if needed)
Cough Medicine: 1 bottle per person containing suppressant and expectorant (combined or separate):
o Cough Syrup DM or low dose of opioid cough syrup
Cold/Flu Symptom relief medicine of personal preference, 1 course per person
Anti-diarrhea (Pepto-Bismol or Imodium): 1 Large Bottle or box
Benadryl (Diphenhydramine): 100 Tablet bottle (especially important if any family member has history of allergies)
Acetaminophen 500 mg.tablets: 100 tab Bottle (Note: can alternate with ibuprofen every 3 hours to control fever &/or pain)
Ibuprofen 200mg tablets/capsules: 500 count bottle
Baking Soda: 1 Box
Alternative treatments/supplements as desired
Vitamin Supplement (1-a-Day Multi Containing the following): 1 Medium/Large Bottle:
o Vitamin A
o Vitamin C
o Vitamin B-12
Children/Infant: All above in formulas specific for children Suggestions: Dose based upon weight of child, not age; Weigh child and write down dosing requirements (how much & how often) in advance to prevent mistakes under stressful situations.
70% alcohol: 1/4 liter (1 pint)
Hydrogen peroxide (dark bottle): 2 small or 1 pint bottles
Petroleum jelly (Vaseline): 1 large jar or tube
Antibiotic cream or ointment: 1 tube
Aloe (aloevera) gel: good for burns, minor wounds, cooling, moisturizing
sterile gauze pads: 1 package
Gauze bandage rolls: 2 each
Cotton (clean): 1 small package
Adhesive tape (adhesive plaster): 1-inch wide; 2 rolls
Adhesive bandages (Bandaids): 2 boxes asorted sizes
Ace bandage(s) - one roll
Scissors (clean/not rusty): 1 pair blunt and 1 pair sharp tip
Soap Bars: 2 bars per person
Shampoo: 1 Large Bottle
Razor blades or disposable razors: per family usage
Toothpaste: 1 large tube
Hand sanitizer: small carry bottle per person, extra to replace; large bottle for refills, several medium bottles for use in bathrooms and kitchen
Antibacterial Hand Soap; dispenser at each sink in home, extra to replace
Baby wipes (not just for babies, reduces water usage): 1 case (6 packages)
Diapers and baby care items as needed
Sanitary Items -2 months supply for first month for each adult female,then 1 month supply for each additonal month preparation
Masks, gloves and goggles
HOME CLEANING/HOUSEHOLD SUPPLIES
Bleach: 2 Large Gallon Bottles
Vinegar: 2 Large Gallon Bottles
Garbage Bags: 30+gallon 1 box
Toilet Paper: 15 Rolls per small family, up to 30 for large family > 4 people
Paper Towels; 6-12 rolls
o disposable silverware
Flashlights: One per person minimum, consider LED lights to reduce battery usage. Additional LED headlamps extremely useful.
Batteries: 3-4 sets per battery powered item
Battery powered Radio:
o Radio/TV Combo
o Weather Warning
o Short Wave
Can Opener (Manual): Two
Matches: 1 large box 100 packs or 6 boxes wooden matches
o Dual Fuel Cooking Stove
o Propane Cooking Stove
Fuel for stove
Air Pump (manual)
Alternative heating method for cold climates
Last edit by Laidback Al on Feb 10, '07
: Reason: typo