Dirty Shame!

  1. St Francis nursing school is closing for financial reasons. For a Century this fine nursing school has turned out many, many excellent nurses. I know I have worked with them. While the politician and CEOs talk about "the nursing shortage", they continue to follow economic policies that make the situation worse. I feel like a old friend is dying.
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  2. 14 Comments

  3. by   colleen10
    Wow!!! I did not know that they were closing.

    When I was looking at nursing schools in the Pittsburgh area I was very interested in attending St. Francis. The people that I spoke with at their program were very kind and knowledgable. Their class sizes were pretty small and ensured one on one time with instructors. I also spoke with new graduates of the program who all had great things to say about it.

    I also had the opportunity to go to St. Francis for a field trip when I was in high school (about 10 years ago) and at that time I was even impressed with the staffs kindness towards a group of unruly teenagers and how they were all excited at explaining procedures to us and getting us interested in medicine.

    But I was hesitant to apply there because I was fearful that with its increasing financial problems the Nursing School would eventually have to close.

    Are they no longer admitting new students or do they have plans to transfer their current students to another program?

    It is a real shame that it is closing.
  4. by   oramar
    Their last class is graduating. Students not graduating this year are transfering to other school. I find the fact that this was all hush, hush until the announcement that it was a done deal very suspicious. Why was the community not warned in advance that there were problems? People would have rallied around and tried to keep it open that is why. Now, this is just a wild speculation on my part. The University of Pittsburgh is buying St Francis out and I am wondering if there is a connection. I watched a hearing on the nursing shortage held at Pitt on the Penn cable network. The University of Pittsburgh nursing faculty were the main speakers and they did nothing to disguise the fact that they want ADN and Diploma programs gone. They actually blamed the nursing shortage on ADN and Diploma programs. If their program of one port of entry had been enacted there would be no nursing shortage according to their theory. ADN programs and Diploma program also were responsible for the sinking of the Titanic don't you know.
  5. by   NurseAngie
    Originally posted by oramar
    They actually blamed the nursing shortage on ADN and Diploma programs. If their program of one port of entry had been enacted there would be no nursing shortage according to their theory. ADN programs and Diploma program also were responsible for the sinking of the Titanic don't you know.
    LMAO!!! Clearly someone needs to get the plunger and pull their heads out of the potty. BS! It's sad to see all of these hospital based programs closing. Many in Memphis,TN and Norfolk, VA are now gone.(I know they're closing all over, but these big cities had a good deal of them in the past.) What a shame indeed!


    ~Angie
  6. by   colleen10
    The University of Pittsburgh nursing faculty were the main speakers and they did nothing to disguise the fact that they want ADN and Diploma programs gone. They actually blamed the nursing shortage on ADN and Diploma programs. If their program of one port of entry had been enacted there would be no nursing shortage according to their theory. ADN programs and Diploma program also were responsible for the sinking of the Titanic don't you know.

    LOL, LOL:roll

    I agree, very hush hush so that no one can do anything about keeping it open.

    As for Pitt getting rid of ADN and Diploma Programs sounds like they want a monopoly on schools in our area and all the money they can suck out of their students for an extra 2 years.

    I went to Penn State, so I could never go to Pitt anyway. :chuckle
  7. by   oramar
    I went back through 2002 nursing news files. There are at least 20 articles this year alone about nursing shortage. This is just crazy.
  8. by   DebsZoo
    According to the latest in Upstate NY area, the Syracuse nursing program is closing also. I am not exactly sure when, as I heard the announcement on the evening news, but nothing since then.
    Sure makes no sense to me either
    Had hoped to transfer there after completing my ADN at the local community college, for the BSN
  9. by   Mkue
    that is soooo sad that these nursing schools are closing ! just when so many students are on "waiting" lists, i don't think that would help matters in my area.

    sounds like they are adding fuel to the fire.

    :stone
  10. by   oramar
    I think a nice long letter to the editor is called for in this case.
  11. by   fab4fan
    Originally posted by oramar
    Their last class is graduating. Students not graduating this year are transfering to other school. I find the fact that this was all hush, hush until the announcement that it was a done deal very suspicious. Why was the community not warned in advance that there were problems? People would have rallied around and tried to keep it open that is why. Now, this is just a wild speculation on my part. The University of Pittsburgh is buying St Francis out and I am wondering if there is a connection. I watched a hearing on the nursing shortage held at Pitt on the Penn cable network. The University of Pittsburgh nursing faculty were the main speakers and they did nothing to disguise the fact that they want ADN and Diploma programs gone. They actually blamed the nursing shortage on ADN and Diploma programs. If their program of one port of entry had been enacted there would be no nursing shortage according to their theory. ADN programs and Diploma program also were responsible for the sinking of the Titanic don't you know.
    Yep, we're also responsible for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping, the Hindenberg, the Kennedy assassinations, VietNam, Watergate...you name it, it's our fault.

    My diploma closed years ago...it was one of the best programs in the country according to the NLN, and that was comparing it to all nursing programs, not just diploma schools.

    Ah, well, we've got broad shoulders; bring on the blame for the rest of society's ills...as diploma grads, we were "multitasking" before it became a buzzword.
  12. by   NRSKarenRN
    PA SBON Approved Nursing Schools List 8/6/02
    http://www.dos.state.pa.us/bpoa/cwp/...=1104&q=433268

    24 Diploma Programs

    22 ADN Programs- One closing in Reading

    33 BSN Programs - One closing in Williamsport

    46 Practical Nursing Programs


    St. Francis is closing because is located in an area that has changed population, is mostly inner city poor area with patients without insurance being served. Funding to care for these citizens has shrinked dramatically, especaily for Mental Health Programs unfortunately. So they will be one more program to close.

    PA still has thriving nursing eduation programs. However, if more RN's don't go into education in the next 5 years, there will be dramatic changes as average age of NSg educators is 52. Nursing Instructor salaries aare less than many hospital starting salaries so that is also a problem.
  13. by   colleen10
    Oramar,

    Just out of curiosity, when you were watching the Pitt Nursing educators on TV and they were saying that the shortage was in part caused by ADN and Diploma programs what was their rationalization?

    Just trying to figure out how a 4 year program can be the end all to Nursings problems.
  14. by   TMPaul
    Unfortunately it's not just a PA problem. Syracuse University is shutting it's doors to the nursing program. Last class will finish this Fall (2002) and any remaining students will be assisted to other programs. It's a shame. I received my post graduate NP certificate there- great education.

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