Different pay and responsibility for 2 year RN's VS 4 year RN's - page 4

I'm completing an RN to BSN program in 2 months. I have learned so much in the BSN program I wish I had taken it sooner. The additional education has taught me skills I never learned in trainings,... Read More

  1. by   P_RN
    Small point of order here. Anyone notice Kasey only posted the ONE time? We're preaching at the choir here.
  2. by   MishlB
    Originally posted by EmeraldNYL
    Kasey, I agree with you 100%. Usually a BSN is required for management positions in my area, but new staff nurses make the same regardless if they have an ADN or BSN. I don't think this is right considering the BSN has more education, and therefore more skills. The profession of physical therapy has become a mroe well-respected, higher-paying profession because they all agreed to now requiring the phD. If nurses could all agree to make the BSN the minimal required entry level, this may help advance our profession as well. BTW, welcome to the board!
    BOOO HISSS
  3. by   RED_ALERT37
    HUMMMMMMM.......playin the alphabet game again.... I know many ADNs that dance circles around a BSN.... BSN makes you more qualified to write APA formatt papers in the field..... hummm do we do those at the patients bedside ????

    Not knocking the BSNs..... but again a Nurse is a NURSE is a Nurse.... when it comes to patient care...... nowwwwwwww if you want to be Management I suggest how to bend over and grab your ankles 101...... and how to do the CEO in 10 easy steps.... its cheaper than a MSN......:roll
  4. by   LilgirlRN
    and.... Don't knock us old diploma nurses. I can guarantee you I got more clinical experience than any ADN or BSN program. From my personal experience, I would rather work with an ADN than a BSN nurse because they have more clinical experience and need less watching over.
  5. by   MishlB
    Originally posted by LilgirlRN
    and.... Don't knock us old diploma nurses. I can guarantee you I got more clinical experience than any ADN or BSN program. From my personal experience, I would rather work with an ADN than a BSN nurse because they have more clinical experience and need less watching over.

  6. by   fab4fan
    Emerald: I really hope that when you are working as a GN, you can find it in your heart to have a little appreciation for the lowly diploma, ADN, and LPN's who will be helping you find your way.

    Elitist attitudes have no place in the profession.
  7. by   l.rae
    Originally posted by fab4fan
    Well, well, well...look who's feelin' fiesty...LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!:roll
    Yip...only 2 short shifts in triage and ...l need an attitude adjustment.........again!
  8. by   fab4fan
    Leah:

    I've always felt that slap therapy was underutilized.
  9. by   Stargazer
    Originally posted by RED_ALERT37
    nowwwwwwww if you want to be Management I suggest how to bend over and grab your ankles 101...... and how to do the CEO in 10 easy steps.... its cheaper than a MSN......:roll
    Considering I've already made it clear in this thread that I am in management, should I be taking this slam personally?

    I don't have an MSN yet, and I don't "do" the CEO, 'cause, first of all, I don't need to, and secondly--EWWW. Trust me. Just...ew.
  10. by   shrinkyrn
    Old diploma nurse here. took classes toward BSN--then I looked at the pay difference and said FOR WHAT??? Have had 2 separate management positions (with my diploma)-- Took a management class--did better than the BSN variety---You are either a leader or you are not.--- I have a well rounded education, as I have studied many different things over time--remember I said I was "old diploma nurse". It never ceases to amaze me how uneducated the "educated" have appeared to be at times. They may have BSN's but many I've encountered are more concerned with their hair, nails and make-up than in what is being presented to them in report!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I have worked with LPN's who have more on the ball as far as patient assessment skills than the BSN's I've seen on the whole over time. Perhaps it's an age thing but.............I don't see where a BSN makes a better nurse-------------SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!I know I'm asking for trouble with that
  11. by   Genista
    The same old controversy. You know how the saying goes, You don't have to extinguish someone else's light to make yours shine brighter. Why do we always have to tear down "the other?" I.e., ADN is better than BSN...BSN is better than ADN...Diploma can dance rings around BSN. What's the point?!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We are having bigger problems in nursing right now than whose degree is best!

    You aren't going to win this argument no matter who you are! (My program was better than yours, naa naaa naaa naaaa naaaaaaaaaaaaa!). It is so juvenile.

    Like you, I can of course, think of LVNs who are better nurses than some BSNs. I also know some BSNs who dance rings around ADNS. And I know ADNs who can make some BSNs look like infants.Blah, blah, Blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What is the point!!!!!????????????? WE will never agree on this, folks.

    Nursing is hard enough. Can't we at least agree on one thing... we are all nurses, all on the same team!!!!!

    No wonder we are burning out, giving up. Do we always have to resort to tearing eachother apart!????? Why can't we support each other???????????????????


    Please think about it!




  12. by   Hardknox
    Well said, KONA2!!!!!
  13. by   CCL"Babe"
    "Emerald: I really hope that when you are working as a GN, you can find it in your heart to have a little appreciation for the lowly diploma, ADN, and LPN's who will be helping you find your way.

    Elitist attitudes have no place in the profession."

    I couldn't agree more.

    As an old diploma grad I get tired of some BSN grads looking down on those who are not. I chose that path because I looked around at the nurses I admired most. They were all diploma grads. I had a degree in another field, and actually took longer to go through the diploma program than had I gone for a BSN.

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