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No. 70
Old Dec 29, 2008, 10:26 AM

Default Re: Descrimination: A full hot meal or soup and a sandwich
Originally Posted by pinksugar View Post
I find it profoundly disturbing that many of you think that the OP is lucky to get a lunch break. I work critical care and I can tell you that I always take a lunch break. I use the bathroom often as well. I wouldn't want a nurse that worked 12 hours straight with no food to take care of me or anyone that I cared about. The OP shouldn't consider himself/herself lucky to get a lunch break - we are entitled to lunch every day - whether you demand it or not is up to you.
You are MY kind of nurse!

steph
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No. 71
from Tweety
Old Dec 29, 2008, 11:30 AM

Default Re: Descrimination: A full hot meal or soup and a sandwich
Originally Posted by pinksugar View Post
I find it profoundly disturbing that many of you think that the OP is lucky to get a lunch break. I work critical care and I can tell you that I always take a lunch break. I use the bathroom often as well. I wouldn't want a nurse that worked 12 hours straight with no food to take care of me or anyone that I cared about. The OP shouldn't consider himself/herself lucky to get a lunch break - we are entitled to lunch every day - whether you demand it or not is up to you.
I 100% agree. To say "be greatful you even get a lunch break" is disturbing. I prioritize my lunch break the same as I do my other tasks. It's rarely at the same time but I eat 99.9999999% of the time I'm work.

To the original topic: to provide a hot meal for some of the staff and not all may not be discrimination but it is a poor management practice. Look at the morale cost.
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No. 72
from leslie :-D
Old Dec 29, 2008, 12:36 PM

Default Re: Descrimination: A full hot meal or soup and a sandwich
i didn't know these hot meals were incorporated into your contracts.
and while it's a nice benefit, it isn't right that only some will get full meals.

i too, am afraid that grieving it would expropriate any meals one receives.
and yes, it really does stink for the morale.

leslie
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No. 73
from Truth66
Old Dec 29, 2008, 01:00 PM

Default Re: Descrimination: A full hot meal or soup and a sandwich
I've been trying to edit the original post to help clarify many things, but I'm not having too much luck with that. Note to self, try and be more specific with details in any further posts.
Yes I'm a Canadian Nurse. However that doesn't seem to matter because the issue here goes far beyond borders and far beyond the issue of food. The fact is that the collective agreement clearly states that employees(all) have the right to purchase food. If an employer does this right they can actually make money on this. If not, they are at least reducing their costs because staff are purchasing any excess food that would've normally been thrown out if the resident's/patients decided that they weren't that hungry that day.
In addition let's take out the food factor for a moment. The employer in this case has arbitrarily decided that one group of workers is entitled to one benifit while another group isn't. To be more specific. Let's say that the employer was only going to give the R.N.'s who work in E.R. a 5% wage increase while all the R.N.'s in the rest of the building were only going to get a 2% wage increase. I'm sure many nurses here would clearly object to something like that.
Another scenario could be that because of staffing issues and a means of controlling costs, a Director of Nursing could arbitrarily state that only the R.N.'s who work in Labour and Delivery will be entitled to any vacation time next year in 2009. How would the R.N.'s in the rest of the facility react?
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No. 74
from leslie :-D
Old Dec 29, 2008, 01:10 PM

Default Re: Descrimination: A full hot meal or soup and a sandwich
i do understand what you're saying, truth.
and in its most technical definition, i think it would be discriminatory.

all i'm saying is there's a good chance they will eliminate that benefit, if someone grieves it.
maybe if they did eliminate it, and seeing everyone get really ticked off, may be enough for them to reconsider...
and everyone would get full meals once again.

hope you work this out.

leslie
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No. 75
from nightmare
Old Dec 29, 2008, 02:18 PM

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Have you thought that they may turn round and say,'right,everyone will get soup and sandwiches then' to even out the discrimination!!
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No. 76
Old Dec 29, 2008, 04:07 PM

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Many CNAs don't feel valued often. Their's is a low paid job with little respect for what they do. LPNs sometimes feel that way as well. Although it is indeed a 'little thing' in comparison, it is often the sum total of 'little things' that lead you to feel a valued member of your organization. Think how often a simple acknowledgement from a patient or management makes a difference in your day. I wouldn't be surprised if this slight no matter how small, leads to staff turnover. I think that if they are smart, they will either offer to change the times for lunch, return to their previous menu, or yes- only offer a 'soup and sandwich' plan for everybody. My .
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No. 77
Old Dec 29, 2008, 04:11 PM

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my hospital buys us food every other week, and caters food here and there. nothing daily, though
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No. 78
from Fiona59
Old Dec 29, 2008, 05:29 PM

Default Re: Descrimination: A full hot meal or soup and a sandwich
Originally Posted by Truth66 View Post
I've been trying to edit the original post to help clarify many things, but I'm not having too much luck with that. Note to self, try and be more specific with details in any further posts.
Yes I'm a Canadian Nurse. However that doesn't seem to matter because the issue here goes far beyond borders and far beyond the issue of food. The fact is that the collective agreement clearly states that employees(all) have the right to purchase food. If an employer does this right they can actually make money on this. If not, they are at least reducing their costs because staff are purchasing any excess food that would've normally been thrown out if the resident's/patients decided that they weren't that hungry that day.
In addition let's take out the food factor for a moment. The employer in this case has arbitrarily decided that one group of workers is entitled to one benifit while another group isn't. To be more specific. Let's say that the employer was only going to give the R.N.'s who work in E.R. a 5% wage increase while all the R.N.'s in the rest of the building were only going to get a 2% wage increase. I'm sure many nurses here would clearly object to something like that.
Another scenario could be that because of staffing issues and a means of controlling costs, a Director of Nursing could arbitrarily state that only the R.N.'s who work in Labour and Delivery will be entitled to any vacation time next year in 2009. How would the R.N.'s in the rest of the facility react?

You're preaching to the choir here. I wonder how different the responses would have been if you had posted this in the Canadian Forum.

Most American nurses aren't unionized and from what I've read here, many regards unions with same distaste as they would the anti-christ.

Our mindset is different. The unions that bargain for PNs and Aides have to fight long and hard for what they've achieved. In my province, the government rolls over and gives the RN union pretty much whatever is asked for. PNs had to fight for every last cent and benefit. Yet, the public sees a nurse at the bedside and assumes that we all make the same wage and have the same benefits.

While it might seem like a mountain is being made out of a molehill to the American respondents, to the Canadians and the Australians who have posted here, we understand how management is chipping away at one groups contract to the benefit of another unions contract.
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No. 79
from c0ntagion
Old Dec 29, 2008, 05:33 PM

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Wow, I'm lucky if I even get a lunch break!
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