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No. 60
from chigap
Old Dec 29, 2008, 12:56 AM
Updated Dec 29, 2008 at 01:06 AM by chigap

Default Re: Descrimination: A full hot meal or soup and a sandwich
Hey Truth66--

Crabs in a bucket! I totally understand your point and it is unfair. In nursing, if my employer punches me and your's only slaps you, then you should shut up and be grateful.
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No. 61
from Mr Ian
Old Dec 29, 2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Truth66 View Post
Thank you for the feedback thus far. However, I think that there's some clarification that needs to be done.
1) Our collective aggreement states "The parties hereto agree that in every instance the employee shall pay a fair price for any meals obtained which shall in no intance be less than the actual cost of furnishing such meals, and the said cost shall be computed by the Corporation. When employees bring their own meal, they shall use the designated dining area for the consumption of same." In other words all employees are entitled to purchase a meal.
2) Up until the the first week of December, every employee in the building was entitled to purchase a full hot meal of what ever was being served to the residents that particular day. Every employee was treated equally. The only difference was that there was different meal times.
3) After the first week of December the employer singled out two categories of workers and said that they were not allowed to purchase a full hot meal like everyone else.
4) If the employer would have allowed the Practical Nurses and Care Aides to change their break times to eat their lunch after 12:30 pm like everyone else then there would be no arguement. Then everyone would once again still be treated equally and all entitled to purchase a full hot meal.
As it stands now the Practical Nurses and the Care Aides are not treated equally, thus the filing of the grievence.
That was Truth's first reply.
I think she made it clear.
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No. 62
from patrick1rn
Old Dec 29, 2008, 02:23 AM

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drop it, you dont have a case of "descrimination".
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No. 63
from lpnflorida
Old Dec 29, 2008, 06:23 AM

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I think until the union sorts it all out, I would come up with plan where lunch times can be rotated.

Some days an Rn takes early breaks and other days a cna or lpn takes early break.

I find it hard to believe that they force a particular licensed personnel to have specific break times that makes no sense to me.

Every place I have ever worked we sign up on that day for our meal breaks early in the shift. That way everyone has a fair chance at their preferred lunch times. Some days adjustments have to made as too many people all want the same time.

Some days no one goes as we are too busy. Some days if a particular person is too busy to go at their scheduled time, they trade with someone else.


Come up with a workable plan and present it to your DON. Often times just complaining is rebuffed. A reasonable plan of action is often times implemented.
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No. 64
from morte
Old Dec 29, 2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Ian View Post
That was Truth's first reply.
I think she made it clear.
thanks, i think, perhaps, we are among the minority who read the whole thing???
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No. 65
Old Dec 29, 2008, 09:03 AM

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Just want to mention, from the OP's original post it sounds as if the facility provides meals to the employees. The OP doesn't make it clear that these meals must be purchased. People are responding to the first post.

Often, people will respond to the first post only and if there are several pages of responses, many people don't bother to read them all before responding. That's why it's important to clarify the whole situation in the first post, or make a clarification on the first page. Maybe the OP ought to edit the first post to clarify this.
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No. 66
from pinksugar
Old Dec 29, 2008, 09:08 AM

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I find it profoundly disturbing that many of you think that the OP is lucky to get a lunch break. I work critical care and I can tell you that I always take a lunch break. I use the bathroom often as well. I wouldn't want a nurse that worked 12 hours straight with no food to take care of me or anyone that I cared about. The OP shouldn't consider himself/herself lucky to get a lunch break - we are entitled to lunch every day - whether you demand it or not is up to you.
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No. 67
from Babs0512
Old Dec 29, 2008, 09:26 AM

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I gotta tell you something Pinksugar, in most places, lunch breaks are NOT freely given. I worked 8 years in the ER, 12 hour shifts, we rarely ever got our two 15 min breaks, and as far a lunches went, if we were too busy, which was 90% of the time, no one went to lunch. I routinely worked 12 hours without a break. I would bring my food to the nurses station and take a bite here and there. Yes, a JAHCO no, no - but even our boss turned a blind eye, lest he had to don scrubbs and give us meal breaks.

Now I work in PACU, when I am on call, I often don't get breaks. My record is 24 hours straight work without breaks, meals. My boss doesn't care, "comes with doing call". The nursing supervisors doesn't care, "there is no one who can relieve you" - so there are many places where this is common place.

Compalining does no good, without a union, if you rock the boat, you're likely the one to fall overboard and drown.

So, there are those of us who routinely work - pretty much non-stop, without proper breaks.

Blessings.
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No. 68
Old Dec 29, 2008, 09:31 AM

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I've never worked anywhere that doesn't somehow provide lunchbreaks. I have seen nurses who feel like they can't take them because they are so behind. I personally think that skipping a lunchbreak does not help you catch up but causes you to spin your wheels more. I find that taking breaks helps me to recoup and work better.
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No. 69
from pinksugar
Old Dec 29, 2008, 09:32 AM

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I used to work at a hospital that had one of the busiest ER's in our entire state and all of those ER nurses not only took a 30 minute lunch break, but they also took a 30 minute dinner break. I am not lying, and let me tell you that this ER was busy/packed 24-7 - pts everywhere in the hallways, pts in the ER for over 24 hrs without getting a bed, etc. We also do call where I work and we make sure to take our breaks. We actually get in trouble if we don't take our lunch breaks.

Point blank, I can't take care of a pt if I haven't taken care of myself. When I was in school and on orientation my instructors and preceptors always stressed the importance of taking breaks, especially for meals. Now there have been a few times when I haven't felt it was a good idea to take my full 30 minutes or stray far from the floor, but I always have at least a few minutes to myself to have something to eat. If I pass out (which I will if forced to go without food for an entire shift) I won't be of any use to my pts or coworkers. JMO.
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