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- Jan 6, '10 by arissy29wow, sounds like you had my preceptor. although at the end of my preceptorship, she gave me a glowing evaluation. I was soo shocked I nearly broke out in tears. Just grin and bear it! We've all been through that. And the saying sadly still lives on...nursing eats their youngs!
- Jan 6, '10 by carolmdegeHi,
I'm really sorry about this, but not surprise. I'm 64yrs. old and have been an RN,
bsn for 33 yrs.
I oriented to the ER at a suburban hospital outside philly. HORRIBLE When i wanted to "just wipe off and elderly woman, my preceptor said "we don't do this here" We were not busy at this point and she then reported me and said that she wouldn't want me to even take care of her mother. Her, an RN 3yr. Me33yrs. They including the nurse educator never made policy and procedure info availabe after i had asked many time.
I was her aide, and she wouldn't let me take lunch. Nurses, we need to help and take care of each other., we did years ago. I left the hospital, but let my feelings be known, Magnet status, never there as long as I'm aliveLast edit by carolmdege on Jan 6, '10 : Reason: punctuation
- Jan 6, '10 by camoflowerI am 53, been a nurse, RN, 9 months, (without any CNA/LPN experience) had two horrible preceptors..just horrible miserable humanodes (one got fired for stealing narcodics since). I got hired on a floor with a very high turnover, with a group "click" (girls with 3 years together), picking me to death with glee, a floor manager that turns a deaf ear and a blind eye, who knows I bite my tongue. I finally began my counterattack, which went.. "....I saw where you did not start your antibiotics yesterday".."did you mean to leave those oxy-codone in the room with Mr. so n so..didn't they go to the room next door..I never leave meds in someone elses room!!??", "the lady in room 9 said you promised to Heplock her IV 2 hours prior to me Heplocking it-she was quite upset"..."you got those orders to begin 2 Units of blood over 7 hours prior to me coming on ...where you that busy..I feel so sorry for you?"...ended with dont worry I did not tell the manager ..sorry your so busy.. OMG am I joining them??? HOWEVER..they have totally stopped the "nit picking" and are given me more respect..and I am handling 6 patients. I pray daily, hourly at times!! I even told one nurse the next time she tells everyone that I charted a pill on a wrong patient...she is never gonna hear the end of me and I will take it to the floor manager..cause I see her errors everyday, everywhere, I just deal with them!! They used to make me so nervous I thought about quitting everyday! Now I know, and you must know, they aren't perfect, like nursing school drills into your head-be perfect, nobody is perfect. My perspective, 9 month later, is much better, I still study when I go home, I take good notes and rewrite them over and over adding to anything I missed....one of the floor nurses went through "my typed notes-entitled for the new nurse on the floor" or "what to do when a patient falls" and begged me to copy them for the new nurses coming to the floor, and for the ones that ask her questions....its full of little tips, that preceptors forget to tell, because WE ARE SOO BUSY on the floor. Nursing is my life! I wish I'd done this years ago!! I will never ever ever be ugly to new new nurses! (or old ones) They don't deserve it!
- Jan 7, '10 by Mas CatoerJust happy to know that you had gone through it with no incidence, that you even took a good learn from it. A *positive* base for someday if you are given a chance to be a preceptor. I got almost a same kind experience when I was a newly graduated nurse, I got even an abusive words just like she was poorly educated preceptor. You know, as a male nurse I was about to present her a slap on the face, but I was able to stay with my conscience. Now as a senior nurse and a teacher, I always treat all yunior with care, eventhough some of them are really total jerks to be taught.
Then hope you are going to be one among the good nurses on earth... ^_^
- Jan 8, '10 by DoritoI still cannot understand why this behavior persists. After the way I was treated 30 years ago when I started nursing I swore I wouldn't treat others this way and I have gone above and beyond to make sure that new nurses felt accepted and at ease with questions. I did not have a chance to read all the posts and I'm sure someone suggested asking your manager if there is perhaps another preceptor that you could work with. Sometimes there are just personalitiy differences that are hard to get past. Otherwise, maybe bring her a little gift to soften her up a bit?? Best of luck to you. Stay strong and keep your chin up. We made it through and just vow to be a great preceptor for others in the future!
- Jan 8, '10 by RoxyDiIt is too bad your experience was negative. Don't let it repeat itself with you - that will be the best revenge! Because of this, you will undoubtedly be a great preceptor if and when you choose to be one. I personally loved being a preceptor, but then again, I love teaching. Even some of the best nurses don't, and they shouldn't be forced into being preceptors!
- Jan 9, '10 by dudette10Quote from RN_that_was_bulliedHi. I'm not sure if I completely agree with this. Addressing only the interpersonal--not the professional nurse aspect because I'm not starting nursing SCHOOL until Monday AND not addressing the OP's situation directly--could it be that one who does not do anything is 1) trying to stay out of it, 2) knows the nurse's reputation/personality and wishes to neither encourage nor engage with the bully, and 3) is committed to just working her butt off with a personally drama-free shift?If the woman at the desk did nothing - she also participated in the bullying.
With bullies, especially professionally, an effective way to get them to stop is to not give them a supportive audience NOR to challenge them. Eventually, they won't seek your ear to spew their hatred, and they won't target you, either. If everyone did that, there would be fewer adult bullies, I would hope. Why isn't it "ok" to just not become a lackey? In all my previous jobs and studies, I have been especially good at finding/attracting the people who don't complain and just work their asses off, while staying out of the line of sight of the bullies and complainers who are desperate for more people to follow them. Somehow, I've gained the respect of my non-nursing professional peers and fellow students for doing so. Calm, intentional non-action is noticeable to those seeking the same.
In fact, if it was clear that I wasn't listening to the bully--actually, actively ignoring them (I have that facial expression down pat)--and a professional peer called me out for my "inaction," I would be extremely angry for a peer asking me to take sides. There are more sides to a conflict than just the "good" ones and the "bad" ones. There are also those who only wish to stay out off the "playground" and get their stuff done.
- Jan 11, '10 by CiouBellaRe: Dear Preceptor
I rated your "vent" excellent because I have also experienced mean spirited "preceptors." Mean spirited is the only appropriate description for these non-professionals, as there is no valid reason to treat a new colleague in such a cold, deragotory manner. The only illogical reason for this sort of behavior is that this is a nurse who is miserable in his/ her chosen profession and life in general. No self respect translates into disrespect for others. Hopefully all nursing preceptors will read about your experience and chose to treat their future preceptees with courtesy, professionalism and friendliness. This will help ensure that their new colleague successfully completes their orientation and enjoys the process of acclimating to their new work environment. Glad you "hung" in there
- Jan 11, '10 by noreenl"I take good notes and rewrite them over and over adding to anything I missed....one of the floor nurses went through "my typed notes-entitled for the new nurse on the floor" or "what to do when a patient falls" and begged me to copy them for the new nurses coming to the floor, and for the ones that ask her questions....its full of little tips, that preceptors forget to tell, because WE ARE SOO BUSY on the floor. Nursing is my life! I wish I'd done this years ago!! I will never ever ever be ugly to new new nurses! (or old ones) They don't deserve it! Jan 07, 2010 12:04 AM"
CAMOFLOWER!! I would love to see those notes!!! It's important that we take care of each other rather than tear each other down. I have learned so much from my peers here at allnurses. This is my 100th post and I have to take the opportunity to say thank you to all my nursing peers CNA, HHA, unit clerks, EMT, AMT, MD, PA, NP all those letters in the alphabet soup of health care!! Happy New Year to you all as Well!!Last edit by noreenl on Jan 11, '10 : Reason: quote not credited properly!
- Jan 12, '10 by kprivette1I too have experienced a insensitive preceptor. My primary preceptor would tell me that I was very smart, and then behind my back she would tell others I needed more time and that she did not think I would make it through orientation. Some of my peers told me the things that were being said about me, I decided to discuss the things I was hearing with my preceptor. When I would ask questions she would give me looks like what do you want now. I felt very uncomfortable with asking her questions, and I could even feel her fustration. I finally was able to switch preceptors and boy she was was heaven sent. She made everything seem so simple. My new preceptor was very patient, encouraged me to think outside the box, and nutured my critical thinking skills. I am so grateful for the experience b/c I can truly say it has made me a stronger, tenacious and competent nurse.