Customer Service Model - page 2

I beg to differ. When nurses are forced to focus a large amount of time in their day to customer service "Thank you for letting me take care of you" models, can it dumb down nursing practice? ... Read More

  1. Visit  tiddles profile page
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    All that nonsense just makes me want to vomit.
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  2. Visit  tokmom profile page
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    Quote from monkeybug
    Oh, but don't let a nurse manager or admin in the US hear you say that! We're supposed to be better than a hotel. In fact, our reimbursement is going to be tied to patient satisfaction. If that's not a case of the inmates running the asylum, I don't know what is. If you are a non-compliant diabetic, good nursing care dictates that I not provide a slice of chocolate cake with an ice cream chaser, but patient satisfaction says I should. And now, we'll be dinged if the non-compliant diabetic goes home unhappy but alive. At least if they're dead they can't complain, I guess. It puts nurses in an impossible position.
    Amen..

    We do courtesy calls within 24 hours after discharge. The calls are automated, but if there is an untoward comment, it goes to a manager or charge nurse who has to return the call. How do they know there is a disgruntled person? They have to carry a pager!

    Well, I will be getting a disgruntled phone call this week. I'm the poor sucker that has to carry the pager AND I do discharges.

    I d/c'd a pt last week, who was a very negative person and was difficult to discharge. As a courtesy, even though I was freaking swamped, I offered to fax in her script which I did and as I always do, gave her back the hardcopy. As you can imagine, my fax said it went through and when she got to the pharmacy, apparently it did not. She was so mad, she didn't even give them the hard copy and wait for them. Instead she went home without her meds and called us to complain.
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  3. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    It's not called "dumbing-down", sounds too harsh. Lets call it "streamlining" so everyone is one the same page here.

    Its not called "cheerleading", it sounds too unprofessional. Instead lets call it "synergy".

    This is what I think goes on in the mind of admin as they roar about "customer-service". I swear I think on of our big-wigs used to be a district manager for McDonalds.
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  4. Visit  Triage24 profile page
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    Most customer service models involving such things as scripting, rounding logs are put in place by those that are not at the bedside. They have no concept of what the nurse at the bedside does. They have little to no respect for the nurse taking care of the patient. Administrations want the patient to have a perception of good care. Sadly perception and reality are not one and the same.
    If only they would be as concerned with safe staffing ratios.
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  5. Visit  carolinapooh profile page
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    If we can figure out a way to show them that safe staffing ratios actually MAKE or SAVE them money (and strict logic says they do: better staffing = more time to pay attention to detail and must = lower HAI, fewer falls, fewer pressure/skin problems, etc, which all = less money the facility absorbs) they'll be on that in a second.

    HEY - I GOT A MASTER'S THESIS IDEA OVER HERE FOR THE TAKING!! Should've kept my mouth shut!
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  6. Visit  carolinapooh profile page
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    Quote from Tina, RN
    I think it "dumbs" everyone down: Us, patients, families, the whole facility. As mentioned in OP, how many times can a patient hear the same stupid script? It makes us all look like the geeky kid trying desperately to impress the popular kid.
    It's worse than that. It makes us sound like dithering idiots who have to be told what to say. I mean, we are ONLY NURSES... (*sarcasm sarcasm*)
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  7. Visit  carolinapooh profile page
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    Quote from Novo
    I think this is generally a product of privitized healthcare where profit margins trumph patient care. Here in Canada patient satisfaction is a foreign term, something I hear of only when I visit this forum. Public healthcare emphasizes family/patient-centered care which focuses on doing things that are in the best interest of the patient. Our job as healthcare providers is to return you back to optimal health so that you are able to intergrate back into society. I'm still shocked when I read that patients fill out customer service surverys after discharge, how bizarre.

    A hospital is a hospital, not a hotel.
    Public hospitals (state and federal - read into that what you will) in this country are embracing it too. It is not limited to private hospitals. Not every hospital in the US is supported as a not-for-profit institution, maintained mostly by revenue. We still have 'county' hospitals and state hospitals, such as those attached to large state universities.

    And we have military/VA hospitals. As I was saying, read into that what you will.

    They're ALL starting to do some aspects of it here.
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  8. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    I was present at a meeting for staff to give their 2 cents to their floor director.

    1. When the RNs asked for more help such as hiring 1 or 2 CNAs to helpd with ADLS, the response from admin was " RNs in other states do more with less staff". ( FYI, CNAs no longer exist at my facility)

    2. When the admin was asked about patient health and satisfaction the admin response was " use your communication skills to inform them what you are doing/when you will be back/ etc". (FYI, this is already done)

    3. When asked if unit secretaries will disappear like the CNAs did the admin answer was "NO, but we will CONSOLIDATE resources as needed". ( I think this means were cutting down, but not all)

    In all honesty, the summary to this whole meeting was "RNs need to work harder". Felt kinda insulted really.
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  9. Visit  Wheels28 profile page
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    Why is "Customer Service" and Health Care used in the same sentence? Health Care should NOT be treated like a spa or hotel. Patient satisfaction scores should be based on health/medical care only, not based on TV channels, soda's, if the nurse waited on the family or if the nurse gave the diabetic a piece of cake. It seems like nurses can't really nurse,They have to spend time doing little meaning less stuff,they have to give in based on a score and that's wrong. When ever I was in the hospital what did I care about? Can they fix my problem?, what can they do to fix it?, was the staff friendly?,did they explain things to me that I don't understand? When can I leave?? If I got great "CARE" that's all that mattered to me. That's what the "score" should be based on. Who ever thought of the "Customer Service" model needs to have their head checked!!!
  10. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from kalevra
    I was present at a meeting for staff to give their 2 cents to their floor director.

    1. When the RNs asked for more help such as hiring 1 or 2 CNAs to helpd with ADLS, the response from admin was " RNs in other states do more with less staff". ( FYI, CNAs no longer exist at my facility)

    2. When the admin was asked about patient health and satisfaction the admin response was " use your communication skills to inform them what you are doing/when you will be back/ etc". (FYI, this is already done)

    3. When asked if unit secretaries will disappear like the CNAs did the admin answer was "NO, but we will CONSOLIDATE resources as needed". ( I think this means were cutting down, but not all)

    In all honesty, the summary to this whole meeting was "RNs need to work harder". Felt kinda insulted really.
    This is not unusual. I am curious as to what "other" states and/or facilities do so much more with so much less. Oh, that and the undercurrent of how "well paid" everyone is.....
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  11. Visit  The_Optimist profile page
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    The concept is great; the application is wrong. I appreciate excellent customer service, as does the next person, I'm sure. Hospitals might have a better chance at pushing the excellent customer service initiative, WITHOUT the scripted lines. For most things to work well, the people doing it have to believe in what they are doing and I don't get that vibe here, which is a fail for the hospitals.

    It might work better if employees are kept reasonably satisfied, which in turn passes on to the patients. I think it's laughable. because inasmuch as our hospitals push the scripted lines and all, they still get grumpy reviews, mostly. You can just tell the lines are scripted and not genuine, further upsetting the patient even more, because they can see through that.LOL.

    But again, the concept is great just wrongly applied.


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