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What conditions would cause so many nurses to leave? Our ER has been losing friends fast. Why is there such a large turnover in nursing? I'm going to school, yet I talk to many RN's who are looking... Read More
Nov 6, '06No doubt, nursing is an extremely demanding profession, even as its rewards are exceptional; however, as I have worked in several career fields, I have seen high turn-around everywhere. I have certainly been guilty of moving on, more than once.
I can't really agree that there is any more discontentment in nursing than in any other fields. I think that the demand for nurses is so high, that a shortage is inevitable and thusly exaggerated. It looks worse than it is for nurses. Overall, I think we are better paid than many other professions requiring similar education/training. And I have never had a job that gave me more satisfaction. The challenge of the job contributes to my sense of accomplishment I am left with at the end of every shift.
Additionally, nurses can move around more freely due to the high availability of positions everywhere. It's a bonus to be sure.
Nov 6, '06I entered Nursing after working as A Merchant Seaman in the US Merchant Marine on Large Seagoing Ships so it was quite a radical career change. In the Merchant Marine I made Big Money(as in BIG). To get my Coast Guard Documents for the Merchant Marine, I took a 4 week class and a 2 hour test back then. My first year in the Merchants in the early 70s, I grossed $50,000 that year. Good Money for little education and responsibility. NOT so with Nursing! I have never worked so hard(in nursing that is) in my life for the "Money". Considering the Educational Requirements and Life Decisions in a Nurse's Hands, the pay is extremely inadequate. In my case, Now, I only do Home Health Visits(one pt at a time) as I could never return to Stafffing in a Hospital for any money(maybe private duty one on one OK). I say the Staffing to Patient(acuity) levels are terrible. Floating which hasn't been mentioned is another major reason for Nurses leaving, at least in my area. Safety; personal with lasting back injuries and the increased possibility of contracting Aids, Hepatitis, TB ect. My last staffing Job at the VA I left had me working 2nd shift; I had 20-25 Geriatric patients each evening, all with Dementia, Alzheimers', or Stroke. I had two Nursing assistants to assist me, but they were lazy and wouldn't work. Reported them to management, then they worked even less. I read where some Nurses here had only 6-8 patients. Man, thats a Cakewalk! Try 20-25 Daily ; that's why I left. What is the answer to the problem? Well one large Hospital(jackson memorial) in my City, Miami, has went Union 4 years ago and the Union has helped immensely as far as staffing levels, Safety and Pay raises. I think it(unionized nurses) is the Future of Nursing. Something has to change-all these posts and hardly a Positive so that's proof a drastic change is needed. Left to Hospital Management, they(hospital CEOs)simply will not address the problem! I would NOT recommend, at this time, the Profession to anyone else either,,,,
BYW, Nursing need to drastically change the curriculm--I spent countless hours on those only to find out in real life on the floor they count for little. For the sake of brevity this is but one change neededLast edit by worldtraveler on Nov 6, '06
Nov 6, '06Quote from Mary AustinAh yes, the million dollar question that employers will find the answer to later when there are not enough of us to do the work on the floors. It will be then and only then they might start to listen (maybe)... Bottom line......MONEY
It is so disgusting! I have been an RN for 8+ years on MedSurg and it's the same wherever you go. The hospital management knows why we are leaving! Don't kid yourself that they'll "listen" to us one day! I think until we wise up and stand together to unionize, we will be taken advantage of. They will continue to staff us with skeleton crews and crummy pay until we demand better treatment!
I'm so fried out on nursing but don't know wherelse to go, so here I sit, hoping other RNs in my area will open their eyes that it doesn't have to be this way! :angryfire
Nov 6, '06it looks like she is an RN to me. It says RN-ASN on her profile. I understand where she's coming from completely. I'm also an RN-ASN and I've been there exactly where she is, sometimes worse. Sure they made the ratio in CA lower..but the acuty is phenomenal even on a med-surg floor and there is no help..it's total nursing care by one nurse. Fortunately for myself I have attained other transferrable skills and I got out of nursing. I still have my license but I will never practice again by my own choice. It's just too damn scary out there.
Nov 6, '06sorry Epona..you're not even coming close to what a nurse on Med-Surg deals with day after day.
Nov 6, '06Why I want to quit? All of the above...all the responsibility and no authority to improve the situation. Managers, I think are the main reason...and hospitals that fire the CNA's because of the staffing limits required by law in CA. So I have fewer pts but now have to do the baths and showers! Its idiotic to keep doing it with the responsibility involved. I would never tell my daughter to be a nurse.
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I am so shocked at how much RNs want to get away from their jobs...
I think there are so many professional & personal reasons for this. I will be leaving my present job shortly............because some RNs there are lazy, and they want me to work X-mas eve, xmas day, New yrs eve & New Yrs day.
I was so upset.................I am starting my own business in January because I'm so sick of all this.... I was studying for a second career while working 3 12-hr shifts so that worked out well for ME .
Take care & I hope this nursing short age doesnt last too long. What's the point of training RNs when they just want to leave anyway.
Hope this helps.
Nov 7, '06they are leaving because of too many patients and not enough staff to provide the type of care we desire. i leave here many days frustrated because i did not get to give adequate teaching to my patients. i dont like to give mediocre care. supervisors expect you to carry a heavier patient load with half of the staff. also the pay is not that great!!!
Nov 7, '06I will NEVER work in a hospital setting again...when I had to get my year hospital experience after nursing school I worked in a university based medical center doing oncology and literally wanted to crash my car on the way to work so I wouldn't have to go. The stress was with me all the time. I would wake up in the middle of the night panicing because I couldn't remember if I'd completed a specific vital task. NO THANKS.
I do hospice nursing now. I can focus on the patient and family I am with as I am in their home and the office nurses handle patient calls. I am treated with respect by the physicians I work with and have an incredible amount of automy. And best of all, I am able to help my patients die comfortably and with dignity. I am a CHPN (Certified Hopice and Palliative Nurse) and am able to offer to my patients and familles my expertise. After 10 years I am still fascinated by my work and feel privledged to do it.
Nov 7, '06Well, to begin with, hiring from the outside (canada) to my hospital pushed me out of the nursing position I was in - I don't blame the Canadians though because they need work too - but a whole crop coming in all at once? I don't take kindly to being pushed out of a position for another nurse to take. Second, it does not matter if a nurse is sick - "nurses don't get sick". I'm sure there are a number of nurses who would agree that if they called in ANDTRUTHFULLY were quite ill, they woiuld be punished for this -- I mean being placed on probation for excessive abscences (that would be 3 call-ins -non-consecutive mind you, during the flu season). Third, when I had to leave on medical disability due to my immune system problem (probaly becasue I was so stressed out), I had NO help from Human Resources - a duck could have done her job. Although I was part-time, my supervisor tried to force me to go Per Diem (WHILE ON DISABILITY???) no no no -- illegal.
Here's one - I know that it is a tough job, but I am really tired of nurses blaming other co-workers for THEIR mistakes. Ok I'm off my soap box now.
Nov 7, '06Quote from Racin_RickThanks for the supportive message. At first, I didn't think that I was 'validated' as a nurse by not 'paying my dues' and working on the floor, but then, I decided that I didn't care...the Creator placed me there for a reason, and that was because I needed to be safer.I'm happy for you, congratulations! I guess I am so bored with nursing really, perhaps clinic nursing will shield you from the cynical immersion. Having steady hours is a really good feature. You Go!
Nov 8, '06I love how the CNA will change it's tune..first the nursing shortage was because of the babyboomer retirement factor...now they're saying it's because there are not enough schools and not enough space in the schools there are to replenish the nursing shortage. But never a word about the high burnout rate or never a word about how even though they've fought for lower patient/nurse ratios the hospitals are getting around that by making each nurse do total nursing care and with patients on med-surg that should be in ICU!