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What conditions would cause so many nurses to leave? Our ER has been losing friends fast. Why is there such a large turnover in nursing? I'm going to school, yet I talk to many RN's who are looking... Read More

  1. by   Gromit
    Quote from Barb101
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    Again to all the nurses who care & treat this profession as a calling on our finial breath St Pete will give us all pedicures, facials & pedicures & we really will know where we are HEAVEN.
    Interesting thought, Barb. Still, if its all the same, I'd like to trade in my uh, pedicure, facial and whatever for a fine cigar, a good beer and a big motorcycle (my particular version of heaven) Otherwise I think you're dead-on! AS I said before, each person must find their own reasons for being in this field. I love it -even with the ups and downs.
  2. by   DeLana_RN
    Quote from lizz
    To me, at least, this is also absurd.

    As a fellow student, I think we need to quit lecturing RN's about the way things are because, quite frankly, we really don't know until we're in their shoes.

    ...

    I'm sorry but, as a student ... I feel I need to say this: SHUT UP until you're actually doing the job with YOUR LICENSE ON THE LINE.

    Because neither you nor I know what it's really like.

    :typing
    Amen, lizz, you have great insight and will do well as an RN as you know exactly what to expect.

    Great post.

    DeLana
  3. by   Gromit
    Aye, and believe me -although it may not seem like "soon enough", you will find out "soon enough" Sigh, in a way, I envy students because they still have the eagerness to get involved, and the territory is all still so new and uncharted (no pun intended) -savor the nervousness and anticipation where it exists -you're getting ready to participate in a very diverse and open field. It can be amazingly daunting, but equally rewarding.
    Ok, now that I've waxed poetic (and my wife would roll her eyes about now) I'm gonna crash so I can get ready for tomorrow nights' shift.
  4. by   momdebo
    Just had to put my 2 cents in. I have been an RN for 10 years and have practiced everywhere. I can count on one hand the number of breaks I have had in those 10 years. There are a million reasons. My personal favorite is when you have a team of 9 patients and between those 9 patients you can be dealing with over 20 different doctors!!! and if you get real lucky (like me) they all round on the same shift. Or you are busy admitting and discharging like there's no tomorrow or the ER patient that is on the way, the surgical or cath lab that's coming back quickly, etc, etc. and if you do manage to get into a bathroom without someone tackling you first then they can always call you on any number of little devices that they make us carry. Some days I felt like a banded bird being tracked!! or sometimes in tele or critical care you have someone who is trying out every different ectopic beat known to man and as soon as you even think about taking a break they're going to go into thier big finale! O.K., I'm done now. Thanks for listening. For all you young nurses and new grads, good luck girls. I've been trying to talk my daughter into nursing and she tells me I'm nuts, she's been watching me through the years and wants no part of the hours or the "torture" as she puts it. Bless you all and good luck. (I work in an office now by the way!)
  5. by   Ronna
    Quote from tntech1
    As an outsider looking in, you need to do something that has you less up tight. Everyone has something stressful to deal with, and begining a RN does not make yours special. Someone can be sympathetic to your issues. No, I am not a nurse if that's your next question, but I do have common sense. Everyone knows nurses have a very difficult job, but this is the career you have chosen. The person you are upset with is not on this post. You might need to apologize

    As an outsider, looking in, you are blind as a bat. You think that nurses need to be less "uptight"!!!! I wonder how layed back and chilled you would like the nurse that was taking care of your loved one that was in cardiac or resp arrest. I can promise you she won't be taking a bathroom break, you should apologize and sympathy does not change a thing. signed Ronna, sorry, but now you've given me a headache and my cheeks are red
    Last edit by Ronna on Nov 24, '06 : Reason: name change
  6. by   Ronna
    Quote from lizz
    To me, at least, this is also absurd.

    As a fellow student, I think we need to quit lecturing RN's about the way things are because, quite frankly, we really don't know until we're in their shoes.

    When instructors say things like this, the first thing you have to ask is ... if things were so great then why aren't you still at the bedside? The fact is: they got out for a reason. I've asked my instructors this same question and, most of the time, they've fessed up. Teaching is a much cushier job ... and they know it. They tend to forget what it was like once they get into academia.

    And btw ... when RN's take their lunches when you're externing, part of the reason for that is ... you're externing and helping them with some, if not alot of the work (at least if you're not a total novice.) Ask them if they're taking lunch on days when they don't have any extra help.

    I've been externing in California where ratios and working conditions are better than most places. And it's still very tough. These patients are so sick and the acuities are so high ... trying taking lunch when one patient's blood sugar is plummeting, another's BP is dropping like a rock and yet another patient's temp has jumped to 103.

    Meanwhile, management is riding you to discharge this patient and admit another so they can make a few extra bucks. And, even if the other patients are stable some of them are patients from hell who are riding the call lights like crazy and management will write you up for not answering the light in two seconds flat because of their customer service criteria BS.

    I'm sorry but, as a student ... I feel I need to say this: SHUT UP until you're actually doing the job with YOUR LICENSE ON THE LINE.

    Because neither you nor I know what it's really like.

    :typing

    Thank you so very much for your support, some people just never ever get it, no matter how many times or how many different ways you explain it. Thanks from Ronna
  7. by   martinadacosta
    :smackingf :smackingf The reason for so many nurses leaving, is because it's the most! abused profession.When no one else can do it; off! course the nurse can.Actually we all ought to be complemented for being the know all;specialist, engineer,computer pgmme.human rights resourse manager.....
    Insted of the Nurse Mary or Nurse Diane; like the Dr. prefix.. We should have a Saint Nurse Mary or St.Ns.Diane..as we are also expected to do the multi faceted tasking attached to nursing with "a tight lip and suffer all the abuse in silence" Like completing the Physicians Prescription, because the pharmacist is unable to read his writing, and get him that awful cup "coffee. do errends, like pass the forms or get the name of referring what ever... take flak from patients, and other paramedical staff.
    You know we are an absolutely talented group of people whom God has chosen. To do any type of work which the mentally and physically retarded folks of this world cannot manage to cope doing. So there you go.. consider your self privileged.. and hit back when you need to.
    Saints also do it..
    Hooo! Blast..
  8. by   Noahm
    Quote from tntech1
    As an outsider looking in, you need to do something that has you less up tight. Everyone has something stressful to deal with, and begining a RN does not make yours special. Someone can be sympathetic to your issues. No, I am not a nurse if that's your next question, but I do have common sense. Everyone knows nurses have a very difficult job, but this is the career you have chosen. The person you are upset with is not on this post. You might need to apologize
    Oh dear. RN's have more stress than most. It is a job with life and death responsibility. Yes we have chosen a difficult career. I understand that better working conditions for nurses equals better outcomes for patients. I will be a patient someday. I will someday be old and acutely ill and unable to care for myself.

    This is why I stick around in this field. I remain outspoken and tell it like it is without worrying about sounding like a whiner. I want things to improve. I want all patients to get good care. I want to get good care someday.

    I don't want the nurses who are caring for me when I am suffering working under the same conditions that I am. Sure I could run away and get an easier job doing something else i.e. working in a newsroom or at Walmart. But I am going to stick around and fight for my patients and the people who are going to be responsible for me someday when I am sick.
  9. by   reading frog
    I LOVE nursing of course I only work 2 8hr shifts a week. I think nurses get themselves in financial binds then have to work and it becomes a DRAG.
    I work as a staff nurse in a commmunity hospital I usually have 4 primary patients and team lead 2 patients with an LPN yes this staffing is GREAT! I have been in nursing for 16 years and have done alot of different jobs but I am most HAPPY now, look at it this way it took me 16 years to find this job just keep looking and if it isn't good move on there are good places to work.
  10. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from martinadacosta
    :smackingf :smackingf
    You know we are an absolutely talented group of people whom God has chosen. To do any type of work which the mentally and physically retarded folks of this world cannot manage to cope doing. So there you go.. consider your self privileged.. and hit back when you need to.
    Saints also do it..
    Oh yes, you have said it all so well!
  11. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from Noahm
    It is a job with life and death responsibility. Yes we have chosen a difficult career. I understand that better working conditions for nurses equals better outcomes for patients. I will be a patient someday. I will someday be old and acutely ill and unable to care for myself.

    This is why I stick around in this field. I remain outspoken and tell it like it is without worrying about sounding like a whiner. I want things to improve. I want all patients to get good care. I want to get good care someday.

    I don't want the nurses who are caring for me when I am suffering working under the same conditions that I am. Sure I could run away and get an easier job doing something else i.e. working in a newsroom or at Walmart. But I am going to stick around and fight for my patients and the people who are going to be responsible for me someday when I am sick.
    Yes , well said, we too will be at the mercy of our present healthcare system one day, think.
  12. by   tntech1
    Quote from Noahm
    Oh dear. RN's have more stress than most. It is a job with life and death responsibility. Yes we have chosen a difficult career. I understand that better working conditions for nurses equals better outcomes for patients. I will be a patient someday. I will someday be old and acutely ill and unable to care for myself.

    This is why I stick around in this field. I remain outspoken and tell it like it is without worrying about sounding like a whiner. I want things to improve. I want all patients to get good care. I want to get good care someday.

    I don't want the nurses who are caring for me when I am suffering working under the same conditions that I am. Sure I could run away and get an easier job doing something else i.e. working in a newsroom or at Walmart. But I am going to stick around and fight for my patients and the people who are going to be responsible for me someday when I am sick.
    The statement I made was not to all nurses. I have worked with some of the best nurses there are and I love them to death. I have also worked with some nurses who are uptight and seems to not like their jobs. I myself have worked in very very high stressful situations dealing with patients lives. By the way you sound like one of the nurses I love to work with. I have worked in labor and delivery, post-partum/med-surg( yeah, this hospital had mommy,baby and sick patients on the same floor ) and surgery. The reason why I made this statement was because of the comment of " you are not a nurse so why are you speaking on this matter." I myself have left my job crying after going throught without lunch and worrying about lots of thing that the nurse themselves are worried about!!! I know you are the licensed professional and I really respect that, and nurses are OVER WORKED BIG TIME and I sympathize with her, but do not belittle someone else for not understanding.
  13. by   tntech1
    Quote from ronna
    as an outsider, looking in, you are blind as a bat. you think that nurses need to be less "uptight"!!!! i wonder how layed back and chilled you would like the nurse that was taking care of your loved one that was in cardiac or resp arrest. i can promise you she won't be taking a bathroom break, you should apologize and sympathy does not change a thing. signed ronna, sorry, but now you've given me a headache and my cheeks are red
    why are you so uptight, take a chill pill, i love the nursing profession. they are over worked and under paid!!! i surely would not want miss uptight taking care of me either!!! who i would want taking care of my love one is, someone who is not uptight, without a headache and no red cheeks
    sorry, just having fun, seriously, i know nurses have a very very difficult job and i thank god for nurses and the profession.

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