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What conditions would cause so many nurses to leave? Our ER has been losing friends fast. Why is there such a large turnover in nursing? I'm going to school, yet I talk to many RN's who are looking... Read More

  1. by   twotrees2
    Quote from RunningWithScissors
    BTW, I most always take a lunch break; it may not be 30 min, but I do make sure I eat, even if it's already 3:30 pm and I've been at work for over 8 hours with 4 more to go.

    I just hand my beeper to the charge nurse and say "I'm going to eat".
    LOLOL yep and thats why a lot of us "charge nurses" especially the ones who DONT WANT IT - are quitting - everyone gets bad end of the deal bt pity the poor charge nurses - i ma one of 2 rns on pms - i am only half joking when i look at the other ( full time vs my casual call /actually parttime ) and say you are charge nurse by default..........even sadder is many "charge nurses" arent even getting a stipend more to give them incentive to want to be charge .....................lol.
  2. by   twotrees2
    Quote from kmrmom42
    READ BELOW..........This may cause even MORE nurses to consider leaving the profession, myself included..............

    Nurses Stunned by Criminal Charges

    Madison, WI -- The nursing community is stunned by the Department of Justice (DOJ) decision to pursue criminal charges against a nurse who caused an unintentional medical error.

    Upon hearing the news of the July medication error that took place in
    a Madison area hospital and resulted in the death of a patient, Wisconsin nurses responded with an extreme sense of sadness and empathy for the patient's family. Nurses' thoughts and prayers continue to go out to the family.

    The decision of the DOJ to charge a health care professional with
    criminal charges sets a precedent in Wisconsin and may have broad ramifications nationwide on how safety concerns are addressed within the health care industry. An outcome may be the exodus of health care professionals leaving their career or deterrence of individuals entering the
    profession, knowing that any medication error or patient injury could
    result in prison time as a felon.

    The Wisconsin Nurses Association (WNA) opposes the DOJ decision to
    pursue criminal prosecution for unintentional medical errors. The Association
    believes that existing regulatory agencies that include the Department of Health and Family Services and Department of Regulation and Licensing can appropriately address and apply necessary sanctions and monitoring systems to promote quality of care and patient safety. In egregious cases action by the DOJ may be warranted, but this is not the case when an unintentional medical error occurs.
    wow - im in wosconsin and havent heard this- then i dont get to watch tv or read paper so i am always out of the loop there. will check on it - sure makes it scary doesnt it - what makes it scarier is how many will NOT report a med error and what will happen with the patients when they do occur even unintentionlly - tsk tsk.............
  3. by   IreneL
    umpiron: What a great post!!! I am a nursing student and was getting very apprehensive about my future! You sound like a GREAT person. I will carry this with me today and do my best to foster great attitudes for positive nursing environment. You have my admiration!
    Quote from lantern light
    I'm still working as a RN, have been for 35+years. I've remained in the PROFESSION because I have always stood up for myself and nursing, I've changed jobs when I felt it was needed or because I wanted to advance myself in knowledged/experience, and I avoided listening ad nauseum to nurses that liked to carry on about the negative aspects of their lives that they have created without doing anything to make it better. Even the simple act of leaving an overwhelming position and moving to a better one makes a statement and empowers the individual. There are great hospitals, nursing homes, etc, etc, out there and they've been created by nurses, yup just regular old (or young) nurses. The ones that cared about making things good, better, best for themselves, the profession, the patients and families. Negative energy eats up a person from the inside out, positive energy radiates outward in an expanding circle of positive energy. Try it, you might just like it...
  4. by   lantern light
    Quote from IreneL
    umpiron: What a great post!!! I am a nursing student and was getting very apprehensive about my future! You sound like a GREAT person. I will carry this with me today and do my best to foster great attitudes for positive nursing environment. You have my admiration!

    Irene, I'm glad you feel better about your future, we need more nurses like you. The more positive you are (even when others choose not to be, the more positive things you will attract. Keep being positive even when it's difficult, it's your life and you're worth it!
  5. by   RN1263
    i'm 6 mos. from grad. w/ my R.N. & I HATE med/surg! I had clinical today and didn't have time to pee once, let alone eat! Not only that, but I do my best job w/ 2-3 pts. (I'm a student) & it's NEVER enough (I do the aids work also) even if I go above and beyond what other students do. There's always an R.N. ready to say "well, did you do this" .."did you do that", but NEVER... "good job"! Ticks me off & makes me mad! They're sucking the life out of me, before i'm even paid to do it, so no thanks. I'm doing my time on med/surg in school, because i have no choice then i'm outta there!!!!!
  6. by   Barb101
    Hi dijmart
    Not everyone is callous in orthopaedics but then I'm from good old Aussie land. How ever to get back to you med/surg is not for everyone thats why nursing is sooooooooo diverse. You will find a specialitly that you will excel at & then you will be in control. So take heart we dont all eat our young. I do agree it is a busy department but that should be not excuse for poor behaviour.
  7. by   RN1263
    Quote from Barb101
    Hi dijmart
    Not everyone is callous in orthopaedics but then I'm from good old Aussie land. How ever to get back to you med/surg is not for everyone thats why nursing is sooooooooo diverse. You will find a specialitly that you will excel at & then you will be in control. So take heart we dont all eat our young. I do agree it is a busy department but that should be not excuse for poor behaviour.
    thanks, yeh, med/surg just isn't for me....but, i'm sure some love it. so, i'll leave it at that.
    i'm going to try psych when i'm done w/ school (i think), it's less task oriented & i really liked my clinicals. i'm not saying psych is easy, just different.
  8. by   augigi
    Isn't that the best thing about nursing? There's something to suit everyone. I am one who could not stand psych nursing, so thank goodness you like it!
  9. by   *RubySlippers*
    Hello, I am new to this site, I have read stories for months now, but, I just had to reply to this post. I hate med/surge too, I am not a floor nurse for sure, I want to work Psych, I plan on (hopefully) going on to be a NP in psych, I am currently working on a minor in Psych with my nursing degree, I graduate in May. I love the challenges of Psych and the variety.
  10. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from schooldays
    Amen! Let's allow Epona to speak and not jump down his/her throat!

    I am a student nurse, and I had one clinical instructor who worked straight med-surg many years and she went on and on about this. Yes, you can take breaks. Yes, you can almost always go to lunch. It's about time management and, more importantly, setting boundaries. Now I KNOW you have someone who is assigned to cover you. You have to go to the trouble of giving report and getting report again from them before and after your breaks, but it can be done. If they don't do their job, you have to speak to them about it and then follow the appropriate channels to get them spoken to by someone higher up if they don't cover you properly. That is not easy and won't necessarily make you popular, but it will slowly affect a change on your unit.

    Also, I work as a student RN and I'd say most nurses on the med-surg floor I'm on take lunch every day-an a full 1/2 hour at least. Those who don't are 1) the new grad who is gonna burn herself out fast and just can't seem to get it all done and 2) the woman who cannot delegate and has trouble prioritizing. I'm not at the level of either one of them (!), but from the comfortable position of a student I can see where they are going wrong.

    This is one nurse who told you she got to take her breaks, and one clinical situation. You believe your nurse instructor who used to work med surg that she always got her break, yet you don't believe the dozens who are telling you they can't take theirs.
    I've been a nurse for almost two decades. I have never worked in a facility where anyone was ever assigned to cover for breaks. In my speciality, I am often the only nurse in the entire facility.

    If you are fortunate enough to work in a state where hospitals are properly staffed and nurses are not treated like dogs, I'm happy for you. Unfortunatly, most nurses' situations are not like this.
  11. by   surfer betty crocker
    To all the wonderful nurses out there doing your job and hanging in there I salute you. I hope when you require nursing care some day in your twilight years that the new generation will do well by you. For those who went into nursing soley for the 'security' or the money I feel for you. For those who take solace in constantly complaining about your conditions or how much you loathe being a nurse, I worry about you. Feeling that stuck, and hating your 'job' can really lead to feelings of helplessness which in turn may lead burnout and subsequent abuse of substances, eating too much, and just basically not enjoying life.
    In the past, I have worked with several nurses who were not that 'old' and they discouraged me on a daily basis--DO NOT GO INTO NURSING. One nurse would tell me so often when I was an EMT that I finally asked her one day "why on EARTH are you a nurse? still? here? Why?" To which she actually stopped, reflected and stated that its an honorable way to make a decent living.
    To those of you who feel burnt out stressed out floor- nursing -sucks, I ask if you can to try and remember why you went into nursing in the first place. IF you went into nursing soley for the money may I suggest banking, or some other such easier way to make a buck-- you know who you are. For those of you who went into nursing with an ideal in mind, and to fulfill some duty to public service and helpling to relieve suffering of others, I tip my hat to you. Dont be caught up in martyrdom which many nurses do. Dont be a victim. You deserve more than that. To all of you I say thank you. You are the backbone of the establishment and it is a damn shame that so many of you feel disenfranchised in this profession. Change needs to happen. It has to. The healthcare in this country is bustin' at the seams. Nurses are unhappy and will walk. And who will be around to take care of the suits someday? That is when you will see real change happen. Some may scoff--but never underestimate power in numbers.
  12. by   twotrees2
    Quote from dijmart
    i'm 6 mos. from grad. w/ my R.N. & I HATE med/surg! I had clinical today and didn't have time to pee once, let alone eat! Not only that, but I do my best job w/ 2-3 pts. (I'm a student) & it's NEVER enough (I do the aids work also) even if I go above and beyond what other students do. There's always an R.N. ready to say "well, did you do this" .."did you do that", but NEVER... "good job"! Ticks me off & makes me mad! They're sucking the life out of me, before i'm even paid to do it, so no thanks. I'm doing my time on med/surg in school, because i have no choice then i'm outta there!!!!!
    orrrr - here is a thought - i totally feel its good on med surge for the clinical experiences before going to specialties - maybe you could be one of those nurses that actaully makes the students feel good and stay and say good jobn etc just a thought if you can hang in there hugs.
  13. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from hillflower
    To all the wonderful nurses out there doing your job and hanging in there I salute you. I hope when you require nursing care some day in your twilight years that the new generation will do well by you. For those who went into nursing soley for the 'security' or the money I feel for you. For those who take solace in constantly complaining about your conditions or how much you loathe being a nurse, I worry about you. Feeling that stuck, and hating your 'job' can really lead to feelings of helplessness which in turn may lead burnout and subsequent abuse of substances, eating too much, and just basically not enjoying life.
    In the past, I have worked with several nurses who were not that 'old' and they discouraged me on a daily basis--DO NOT GO INTO NURSING. One nurse would tell me so often when I was an EMT that I finally asked her one day "why on EARTH are you a nurse? still? here? Why?" To which she actually stopped, reflected and stated that its an honorable way to make a decent living.
    To those of you who feel burnt out stressed out floor- nursing -sucks, I ask if you can to try and remember why you went into nursing in the first place. IF you went into nursing soley for the money may I suggest banking, or some other such easier way to make a buck-- you know who you are. For those of you who went into nursing with an ideal in mind, and to fulfill some duty to public service and helpling to relieve suffering of others, I tip my hat to you. Dont be caught up in martyrdom which many nurses do. Dont be a victim. You deserve more than that. To all of you I say thank you. You are the backbone of the establishment and it is a damn shame that so many of you feel disenfranchised in this profession. Change needs to happen. It has to. The healthcare in this country is bustin' at the seams. Nurses are unhappy and will walk. And who will be around to take care of the suits someday? That is when you will see real change happen. Some may scoff--but never underestimate power in numbers.
    Great post.

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