Is this considered a burn out? - page 3

by bTRUE

I'm no stranger to mandates due to weather conditions but I actually began to feel helpless these past few days because of the snow blizzard in NY that ended up being more intense than anticipated. I worked 24 mandated hours on a... Read More


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    Quote from monkeybug
    ... We called the BON to see if this was abandonment (not clocked in, no report yet) and our BON said that it defintely could be. I'm sure rules differ from state to state, but that just doesn't seem right.
    Huh. I had always been under the impression that a nurse had to have received the patient assignment (meaning, she got report on her patient load) in order to have them really be "her" patients for the purpose of determining abandonment.

    I've seen many a supervisor threaten "patient abandonment" in the face of a nurse balking at seeing she had a ridiculous number of patients and deciding she wasn't going to clock in. How can you "abandon" a patient you have not recognized responsibility for?

    Not sure if clocking in means you've "accepted responsibility" either....simply because I have accepted the fact that my shift has begun and I'm prepared to work that shift doesn't mean I MUST accept absolutely everything thrown my way, right? For instance (going a bit silly, but bear with me) if I clock in at 6:59, and I see that my name is next to 19 patients, shouldn't I have the right to refuse to accept that assignment before being threatened with abandoning those patients? After all, writing my name next to a patient list doesn't mean I have accepted responsibility for them....but getting report on them does, I believe.

    I think the threat of Patient Abandonment is used way more than it can actually be enforced.

    Anyone have anything more concrete than that?

    As a side note, even if that nurse "friend" of bTRUE's wasn't technically abandoning patients, she sure as hell was sticking it to her co-workers and in general being a cruddy human being.
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    Where was admin? They should have been there helping answer lights etc when they had nurses working triple shifts. What poor planning.
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    Quote from CrunchRN
    Where was admin? They should have been there helping answer lights etc when they had nurses working triple shifts. What poor planning.
    Admin wasnt around until the day after the storm and he did jack for us, he didn't even feed us when all food places (that delivered) weren't open ( bc remember we were stuck there even not by choice bc our cars were still not plowed out in the employee parking lot ) so we all starved or ate crackers and coffee from the unit pantry (meant for patients) . Our previous admin ordered food for each shift and unit ! When he came in, I only recall him checking up on the unit , didn't speak much and then i never saw him again nor did I even care bc I was more focused on making sure my patients weren't still soiled from the night shift.

    This was a emergency situation where whatever help WAS available on grounds should have stayed on grounds even if they weren't clocked it during night shift they are automaticity mandated to stay, rest up and clock in for day shift until more people show up! That's the perk of emergency mandates , no one wants to stay at work but that's the way it is . In this case the nurses didn't abandon any patients but they abandoned their team which in my opinion is equally has harmful bc of the under staff and over worked staff that they let down . I will be more than ****** if I find out they didn't get negative consequences for their lack of help.
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    Hope you submit that Joint Commission complaint ASAP. Your state health dept. too.
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    Quote from bTRUE
    I'm no stranger to mandates due to weather conditions but I actually began to feel helpless these past few days because of the snow blizzard in NY that ended up being more intense than anticipated. I worked 24 mandated hours on a subacute rehab floor. 1st shift I was assigned 8 patients, 2nd shift and 3rd shift we were just so short staffed that we had no set assignments! We just ran the floor answering call bells while 1 nurse handed out meds to 33 patients . We were snowed in , I couldn't even leave if I shoveled my car out bc someones car was stuck in front of my car in the parking lot hahaha.

    But anyway , my 1st and 2nd shift went smoothly , but that 3rd shift may have really pushed me over the edge and I don't know if it's burn out or if I genuinely mean what I'm saying when I say that nursing is the worst profession anyone could sign themselves up for.

    3rd shift was 630am-230pm , I literally never had a chance to sit and eat... Many nurses actually snuck out so that made us even more short staffed. I personally could never do that to my team or patients but some people think their lives are more important than ours so they are more entitled to go home during a emergency mandated snow storm. But anyway , I hated everything about today. Call bells were non stop, patients complaining about EVERYTHING regardless of how many times I explained the situation and apologized. I just felt like the patients especially were ticking me off. I found myself crashing, chills, and body shaking. It was a feeling I don't think I've ever had. Soon after that i got to go home , meanwhile another nurse stayed for her 4th shift in a row (mandated ) .. But after a few hours sleep I'm still really angry about today and just in a overall bad mood. Everything upsets me even the slightest little thing i start crying lol

    I do have to go to work tomorrow and the next day. I'm dreading it but hoping when I wake up tomorrow ill feel better.

    ..... Is this burn out? ? Well either way how do you guys handle it when you have feelings like this? And what can nurses really do when they are put in such horrible working conditions ? Legally? I feel like I was just emotionally and physically abused. So much so I'm a emotional train wreck !
    I think it's exhaustion -- and you're certainly entitled! Get some rest and take care of yourself. See how you feel about things next month.


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