Christmas Schedule - page 4

Hey! just wondered how your Christmas schedule looks? I dont have a Christmas this year. It totally isnt fair! My NM has me working Dec. 23,24,25. I am transferring to O.B. soon, so i guess i will... Read More

  1. by   MK2002
    I had to work Thanksgiving, and I will be working a couple more 12-hour shifts during Christmas. My co-workers and I celebrated Thanksgiving with each of us bringing in something. We had tons of food, more than we could possibly eat. The thought of working on these holidays really bothers me. On the other hand, I will earn a couple thousand dollars extra over the course of a month, so it will be rewarding in one way.
  2. by   flowerchild
    Originally posted by fab4fan
    You are sooooooooooooo right!!! If I want to just spend the day contemplating my navel, the so what?

    My decision not to have kids...someone else's to have them.
    So don't make it my responsibility to make your schedule holiday free...my time off is just as precious to me as it is to those with children.
    OK, I'm envisioning Christmas morning~~~~~~~~

    Adult at home on Christmas morning contemplating thier naval,
    OR
    4 year old child at home on Christmas morning without Mommy.

    Hmmmm..............

    Conclusion~~~~~Kid needs Mom more than you need your naval.

    (The only thing I agree with what this woman ever said; "It takes a village.")

    JMO, Ducking now.
  3. by   Gizmed
    If I'm not scheduled on the holidays (7on/7off) I usually volunteer to cover them for the folks w/kids just to help avoid problems like those mentioned ([I]But I've got kids!...). With no wife or children (yet...) its not the best season rattleling around in the ole apt. As for Christmas, I may be on the home leg of an aeromedical mission home from europe. Again, I think we're all single on that one....
    Regardless of how its done it should be fair and consistent- w/o regard to the child issue.
  4. by   fab4fan
    Originally posted by flowerchild
    OK, I'm envisioning Christmas morning~~~~~~~~

    Adult at home on Christmas morning contemplating thier naval,
    OR
    4 year old child at home on Christmas morning without Mommy.

    Hmmmm..............

    Conclusion~~~~~Kid needs Mom more than you need your naval.

    (The only thing I agree with what this woman ever said; "It takes a village.")

    JMO, Ducking now.
    Well, like I said, I believe that my time off is just as important to me as it is to anyone else.

    I have just had my fill of being guilt tripped because I don't have kids...having kids means making choices. I think it is unrealistic to expect that people who are childless are supposed to always accomodate those who do.

    Sure, it "takes a village." But I don't recall the rest of the statement to include that childless people should work all the holidays. Where is there any reciprocation? That's very convenient to throw that at someone, but rarely do we get any cooperation when we need days off...because people who have kids will say they have things they need to do with their kids.

    So, I now take the holidays that I am entitled to...sorry, this is one topic that just really gets me fired up.

    Maybe my example was a bit flip, but you cannot imagine how many times I have had to practically defend myself for taking holiday time I had coming to me...someone always thinks his/her child is more important than me getting to be off when my friends are off, or just getting some needed R & R.

    I need to stop...I can just feel my BP go up, because this reminds me of really bad past experiences.
  5. by   ratchit
    Fab, I think your response is fabulous! <g> I wrote something similar myself and then didn't post it a couple days ago- I didn't want the venom. <g> But since you were brave, I'll join you.

    Everyone who accepted a nursing job accepted it knowing it involved weekends and holidays. If the choices you (meaning a parent who expects to not work holidays) have made in your own life prevent you from upholding your repsonsibilities, you have another choice to make: find your own coverage or get a non-holiday job.

    I'm not slamming parents, here- I'm soon to be married and debating motherhood myself. But the job description doesn't say "only the childless work Christmas." It says everyone pulls their share of unpopular shifts.

    Just because I don't have kids doesn't mean my life should juggle around yours. The non-parents already get our lives juggled around the parents- I want Wednesdays off to go to school but someone can't get a sitter that day- guess who gets the day off? Hint- it's not the non-parent. Mary's childcare situation is set up for Mon-Tues-Thursday- guess who gets their schedule made around Mary's, without regard to MY needs?

    I'm all for responsible parenting. But the demands of a nursing career are responsibilities, too. I meet mine and expect my coworkers to meet theirs, too. I never signed up for a job that required me to do MORE than my share so that someone who chose to have kids can do less.

    It should NEVER be assumed that just because someone has a 2 year old at home that their holidays are more important than mine. Holidays are important to ALL who observe them- how people accept and juggle their responsibilities is up to them.

    I'm fine with people bargaining and trading but favors should be requested, not assumed.
    Last edit by ratchit on Nov 30, '02
  6. by   fab4fan
    ratchit: Thanks...I was bracing myself for this one, but you just reach a point where you say, "Enough, already!"

    The thing is, I don't even observe holidays, and there was a time when I volunteered to do them all, out of deference for those who have kids/do observe. However, people started taking advantage of this, and it got to be "expected", and on the very few times I took a holiday that I would have had scheduled off, I was treated like Cruella DeVille.

    So that was when I decided to just take holidays like everyone else. I have come to appreciate how nice it is to be off when everyone else is off.

    I can totally relate to what you are saying about scheduling. And my feelings are pretty much the same. If someone is going to hit me with some sort of moral obligation to contribute to the well-being of his/her child, then by rights I should also have some say in other matters regarding the child, too. It goes both ways.

    You choose to go into a profession where working w/e and holidays is a given...you choose to have children. If this causes a conflict, then it's the parent's responsiblility to work things out.

    Sigh...can anyone work for me next Tuesday? My cat has soccer practice...LOL!
  7. by   ratchit
    "on the very few times I took a holiday that I would have had scheduled off, I was treated like Cruella DeVille. "

    That's just wrong. I can see why you stopped doing it. Did you ever say anything to these people who assumed you'd do all the holidays? Did they ever get to hear "But you should work it instead of me" coming out of their own mouths?




    If someone is going to hit me with some sort of moral obligation to contribute to the well-being of his/her child, then by rights I should also have some say in other matters regarding the child, too. It goes both ways.

    LOL- never thought of that angle! I like it! If I have responsibility for raising the child in any way, I should get some decision making power too! "Sorry, but I'm vetoing ballet class- I think you're overextending little Susie." LOLOLOL



    You choose to go into a profession where working w/e and holidays is a given...you choose to have children. If this causes a conflict, then it's the parent's responsiblility to work things out.

    My point exactly, but you put it much better.

    I have to get offline, too- my cat has gymnastics in an hour. <grin>
  8. by   CraftyLPN
    so far, i have to work Christmas cuz "new employee" status...DANG!! I worked July 4th, Thanksgiving and christams..oh well.............................................. .
  9. by   K O'Malley
    I work two jobs per-diem. Was scheduled 7-3 on Thanksgiving by choice but was cancelled because of low census. Am off Dec 21-26. Work 7A-7P on New Years Eve by choice. I spent many, many holidays working when my kids were little. Was it worth it? To be honest I think I missed out on a lot. Now they are all grown and away from home. They only get a couple of days off to come home for the holidays and I'm not going to spend that precious time working.
  10. by   psychonurse
    I worked short on Thanksgiving, it was one other nurse and I in a 1500 bed all male prison. One nurse called in sick and we couldn't get anyone else to come in or stay. We worried all night that something bad was going to happen but things went great all night. The next morning after getting to sleep at 2am one of my bosses called to rag me out cause I had been upset when I got to work and found out that we were going to be working short. I told her that I wasn't worried about having to work so hard, it was the safety of the facility that I had problems with. Didn't make me very happy about that.

    I am also working Christmas and New Years and it is all 3-11 but I really don't care cause it is just a day to me. When my parents were alive and my brothers children were little I would like to have the holidays off but it doesn't matter to me anymore.

    I agree about the fact that the people that have children shouldn't have more holidays off than I do just because I don't have children. I have made a choice but I shouldn't be stuck doing all the evening shifts or all the night shifts just because I am single and have no family conflicts. My mother and father worked all the time that I was growing up and it didn't make any difference to them and I came out okay. But I work with nurses that think that from the time thier children are born until the time that they hit 18 that they don't or should not have to work anything but day shifts. I get so tired of that, not only am I working all the holidays but there are only a few of us that work the overtime also. But I guess that is the burden of not wanting to have children has got me into. I just think that I should have the same respect that they have.
  11. by   Katana
    I can see that this is a pet peeve for many of us.

    This year I worked Thanksgiving, will work Christmas Eve and have Christmas Day, New Year's Eve and New Year's Day off.

    For us, if you worked Thanksgiving, you will most likely work Christmas Eve and have Christmas Day off. We take turns unless someone prefers to and volunteers to work the holidays. I usually work Thanksgiving as it's not that special a family holiday for us.

    I grew up in a medical family where having Dad home for holidays without getting called in just didn't exist. That was his choice. I chose nusring but I didn't chose it because I wanted to work every weekend and every holiday but I believe in being fair. Every other weekend off, share the holidays and alternate things like Christmas.

    For me, Christmas is the main holiday that I want to spend with my family. No kids. I'm the youngest but I deserve my holiday with my family, too. I don't mind if it's Christmas Eve or Christmas Day.

    One year, the unit I worked in was all 12 hour shift people. We worked it out amongst ourselves and went to our nurse manager with the plan.... we would all work 4 hour shifts on Christmas day.
    I worked 7a-11, the next person worked 11-15, and the last worked 15-19. It worked out great and fit all our lifestyles and EVERYONE was happy! It's surprising how fast those little 4 hour blocks went.

    I fully agree that those who have kids should not have any priority over those who do not. I've worked with people who thought, just because they had kids, they should be able to have whatever schedule they wanted. Always asking someone to trade days with them because something came up with one of their kids. It got to the point that absolutely NO ONE on the unit would trade days with her.

    We also have those who are scheduled for the holiday and then call in sick. Boss made a rule.. you call in on a holiday, you go to the ER, get seen by the Dr and bring the excuse in. If you don't, you don't get paid and you get counceled for abuse. No one wants to pay $75 to go to the er unless they truely are sick.

    Here, those who want Hannuckah (I'm sorry, I know I misspelled that) or Rhamadan, or Winter or Summer Solstice don't have near the fight to get the days off but those are special days to them, as well.

    My point is the same as others. Having children does NOT give you any priority over anyone else working. You take your turn like everyone else or find someone who is willing to work for you.

    Kat
  12. by   Q.
    Originally posted by zudy
    Off Thanksgiving, the Friday after , Christmas eve, day New Years day ALL WITH PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Heather, you just think you suck!!!!
    Ditto.
  13. by   Q.
    Fab,

    I also agreed with your post. This is also a very sore subject for me due to past experiences with parents either bamboozling me or otherwise treating me like crap for wanting Christmas off. As if my holidays aren't as important because I didn't pop out a few babies.

    Seems everywhere in our society, kids are treated as entitlements. Ya get holidays off, ya get tax breaks...and all for squirting out a kid. I guess I don't rate.

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