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No. 20
from tvccrn
Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:33 AM

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FWIW, I'm ADN and am looking for a new position. All the ones I want I'm qualified for except the BSN. And all of them have gone with people who are more "qualified" meaning they have their BSN.

I will be returning to get my BSN in the spring, so if I were you I would get it right off.
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No. 21
from Tweety
Old Oct 22, 2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nohika View Post
Just to clarify, I was asking if there was any clinical basis or if there was any sort of factual evidence for this - I'm not assuming it's correct. Since I can, and I see soooo many job postings where I live that are "BSN preferred", I figured I'd just bite the bullet and go for my bachelor's. Of course, if I don't get accepted into any four-years (and yes, I do shop by NCLEX pass-rates!), I'll go to my community college (where I'm taking my pre-reqs.

Thank you guys so much, and if anyone else has any advice on the better schools in my state (I'm in Washington), that'd be helpful too. =)
I think it depends on the BSN program how clinically prepared you are. There are also ADN programs around that don't prepare nurses clinically. In the old days it might have been true that BSNs didn't get as much clinicals, but they have since improved and there are minimum requirements by the NLN for clinical hours. However, the myth survives that "BSNs are paper pushers and ADNs get more clinical time".

Best of luck to you!
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No. 22
from Meriwhen
Old Oct 22, 2009, 01:10 PM

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I don't think it's so much the degree program that's a factor, as it is the school itself. I've seen both ADN and BSN students come through for clinicals and were fantastic...and then I've also seen both ADN and BSN students come through that were train wrecks. So research the schools themselves and see how many clinical hours are required for their programs. Then talk to actual students (current or graduated) from these programs and see what they do in clinicals--you want to know how much is "hands-on" and how much is observing. That is the best way to find out how much experience you'll get.

If you have done your homework and found yourself a BSN program where you know you'll get a good amount of clincial preparation...by all means, go straight for the degree if you can!
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No. 23
from Susan82
Old Oct 22, 2009, 01:16 PM
Updated Oct 22, 2009 at 01:28 PM by Susan82

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In my community we have 3 nursing programs. 1 ADN and 2 BSN. The ADN program that I attend has a higher Board pass rate and a lower tuition than the other 4 year schools. ADN programs in general have higher board pass rates than BSN programs across the counry. BSN is good but I am going for mine after I complete an ADN program. Learn Nursing first then complete your education.
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No. 24
from centexRN
Old Oct 22, 2009, 02:11 PM

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Nursing school was so much fun that I did it twice. My first program was a hospital school of nursing, RN only. Several years later, I earned a BSN. The BSN doesn't make me a better nurse, but it gives me more choices. There is immense wisdom in all of the posts, so see what works for you.
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No. 25
from mich321
Old Oct 22, 2009, 03:12 PM

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I agree with the previous comments regarding clinical hours and experience....I think it varies by school and instructor, not necessarily by degree. In addition, I think clinical experiences are what the student makes them to be. For example, when I was in school there were 2 types of students:

1. Students who showed up late to clinical days, asked to leave early, whined about having to help with patient care, disappeared from the floor randomly during the day. Did the absolute minimum amount of work necessary to not be dismissed from the program.

2. Students who showed up on time, ready to learn, sought out experiences, and asked questions.

These people all graduated with the same degree, but I'm willing to bet some were a bit better prepared! Nursing school really doesn't prepare you for the 'real world' of nursing though.

By the way, I have a BSN......and I didn't feel very confident or prepared when I started working.....many days I still don't!
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No. 26
from JustMe
Old Oct 22, 2009, 04:19 PM

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The difference between an ADN graduate and a BSN graduate is the degree. The training is virtually the same since these graduates need to pass the same NCLEX. Yes, some jobs are requiring a BSN, but they want you to have the degree. I tell my ADN students that they can still get into the military, they just won't be working as an RN until they have their degree. BUT they can still moonlight as an RN because they have a license. And I recommend that they return to school if they ever become bored or burned out. Continuing my education has saved my career--I highly recommend it!

Just my
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No. 27
from Otessa
Old Oct 22, 2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nohika View Post
Allright, so I have a few questions...I was reading about how "BSNs are often the least clinically prepared" and all that kind of jazz, so now I'm worried...is it even worth going for my bachelor's? I already have plans to do so, so I'm curious as to what you guys think. Is it worth it? It's not an issue of money - I'm covered either way.

Opinions?
Not all programs are created equal. You can't compare one BSN program to another-even in the same town or state. I have a BSN and an awesome clinical experience at my school-one of the reasons I chose it over others.

For me, a BSN has opened doors and I have had job offers that may not have been offered if I did not have a BSN.

Otessa
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No. 28
from parfum
Old Oct 22, 2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KalipsoRed View Post
I'm a BSN with 18 months experience. I can tell you that I was not prepared for what I needed to do after graduating and that was working part time as a nursing tech in a very large metropolitan hospital for 2 years prior to graduating. My school was also great about clinical hours my last semester. I had 144 hours of on the floor experience my last semester, however that is only as good as the preceptor you have is. Mine never let me have more than 2 patients because she was so afraid about being responsible for me while I took care of her patients. It got better as the hours went by, but she never ended up trusting me with a full team.

I agree with other posts that say no new RNs are really prepaired for floor nursing through RN programs today. You learn what you are suppose to do on the floor at your first job (scary huh?). If I went through it all over again this is what I would do:
1)BE A TECH! It is the closest thing that comes to being a nurse. Helps you to become familiar with hospital operations and understand the basics in patient care. If you are going to a 4 yr program then try to switch your tech experience up during the time you are in school. The responsibilities of floor techs are very different than one that works in the ER or in surgery.
2)SPEND AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE!! DO NOT be disillusioned into believing that paying for the better school will mean that you are more prepaired. Nursing school SUCKS! It is not a fair or forgiving environment in ANY college or university. The goal of school is to make sure you pass your boards not really how to teach you how to be a nurse (sounds kind of messed up, but it is true. Kind of like how schools are now teaching children to pass state exams to recieve funding instead of teaching children how to think. Think of it like this: If you are shopping for a school I bet you've been looking at the schools pass rate for the NCLEX instead of how their program is designed. Why? Because you have to pass your boards to be a nurse; knowing how to be a nurse afterward is just a bonus). I know that is sarcastic, but it is true. If you are using any sort of loans to pay for school I BEG you to take the path that will lead to you having the least amout of debt when you are done. I owe $47,000 after my BSN and I only was there for 3 years. The program was $28,000, however, I couldn't cover my monthly bills with the $600 a month I made working part time as a tech so I had to supplement with my student loans. PLEASE, PLEASE USE AS LITTLE LOANS AS POSSIBLE!!! If you decide to get your ADN at a community college (spending a lot less than I did) then you can go get a job at a hospital and get the hospital to pay for your BSN. Please be assured that the classes required for a BSN are BS compaired to the ones that you have to take to learn how to be a nurse. Most of the time it only takes a year of classes to go from ADN to BSN.

I hope that helps. Good luck.
i just wanted to say thank you for posting this. being pressured to go directly into a bsn programme was the only thing i'd been facing, but now i am thinking of looking into PCT just to get my toe in the water and see if i like it. thanks again.
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