Blue or white collar? - Page 5
Register Today!- May 22, '12 by VivaLasViejasI'm an ADN, but consider myself white-collar because I'm in management......that is, when I think about pigeon-holing people at all.
- May 22, '12 by Aurora77Quote from Been there,done thatI mostly agree with you. However, a bad mechanic can kill you. Brakes fail--not a pretty sight; then those people become our problem. When you take your car in, you're trusting him or her with your life. Kinda scary when you think about it. Just nit picking, like I said, I mostly agree..The difference is... drum roll..Even if they have the same NUMBER of years in their education.. they do not have the same RESPONSIBILITY!!.
LIFE and DEATH!Last edit by Aurora77 on May 22, '12 : Reason: punctuation fail - May 22, '12 by Been there,done thatQuote from Aurora77Umm,, look at car. Look at brakes, put in correct brakes.I mostly agree with you. However, a bad mechanic can kill you. Brakes fail--not a pretty sight; then those people become our problem. When you take your car in, you're trusting him or her with your life. Kinda scary when you think about it. Just nit picking, like I said, I mostly agree..
Yes , the need for the brakes can lead to a life or death situation.
However.. it does NOT require critical thinking skills, or an instantaneous decision as to how to intervene when a life is on the line.
Please, don't compare us to mechanics. - May 22, '12 by obprofPink-collar. A women's dominated service profession. I used Wikepedia for my definition. White-collar usually refers to office workers and Blue-collar refers to manufacturing.
- May 22, '12 by Ashley, PICU RNI think of white collar as more management/supervisory positions. So as nurses, I consider us blue collar since we are in the trenches doing physical work. If I were a nurse manager or a chief nursing officer I would consider it white collar.
Not that the distinction really matters at all. it's just semantics. - May 22, '12 by StephalumpQuote from Been there,done thatActually, the two things are quite similar. Both automobiles and bodies are complex machines. Health of vehicles and living things rely on a million tiny things to go right, and the smallest malfunction can cause a huge problem. And, I'm sorry, but critical thinking is the very essence of being a mechanic.Umm,, look at car. Look at brakes, put in correct brakes.
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Obviously the life or death aspect is a bit further removed from us than actual medicine, but I think you'd be surprised how many similarities there are between the two.
Perhaps the men complaining about the name "nurse" should consider calling themselves "Body Mechanics!"Last edit by Stephalump on May 22, '12 - May 22, '12 by PMFB-RNUh, most of us punch time clocks and wear work uniforms just like any other blue collar factory worker. Without a doubt we are blue collar.
- May 22, '12 by blondy2061hQuote from obprofDo not ever tell me nursing is a "Service profession" right up there with waiting tables like pink collar implies.Pink-collar. A women's dominated service profession. I used Wikepedia for my definition. White-collar usually refers to office workers and Blue-collar refers to manufacturing.
- May 22, '12 by PMFB-RNQuote from Been there,done that*** To be fair most nurses will never make instantaneous decisions to save a life. If we subtract those nurses who work ICU & ER type jobs most nurses just arn't often faced with life or death situations.However.. it does NOT require critical thinking skills, or an instantaneous decision as to how to intervene when a life is on the line.
Please, don't compare us to mechanics. - May 22, '12 by blondy2061hQuote from Do-overThe doctors I work with have the exact same name tag I do, often have to deal with nasty things (rectal exams, gross wound abscesses, etc), work nights, weekends, and holidays. Are they not professionals?I get paid by the hour, and wear my name on my shirt (or badge, anyway). I clean up nasty, nasty things. I work nights, weekends and holidays. I am a blue-collar worker. And I have no issue with that label. I don't consider what I do a "profession" I consider it a "skilled-trade" and I am finally feeling like a journeyman (or journeywoman, I suppose).
I wouldn't say that ALL nurses are blue-collar though. Professors, manglement, researchers, etc. I would say are white-collar.
A skilled trade is something that can be learned on the job or in grad school. It's also something you generally stop learned after you know how to do it. I have a bachelor's degree, almost a master's degree, and am learning new things constantly.
To replace me with someone off the streets would take a minimum of 4.5 years (4 years to get a BSN- my facility doesn't even look at ADNs anymore) and 6 months of orientation. That doesn't account for my experience or my OCN or my ACLS or any of the classes toward my master's degree. That is because I am an educated, professional.Been there,done that likes this.