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No. 20
Old Nov 05, 2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kkia123 View Post
I agree with you...I just bought a house and my poor husband has to pay the bulk of the bills. As of now I have two pointless degrees and potentially a third when I waste more money and go back to school still having no hospital experience!
Well ok...I would never even consider buying a house if I didnt have an job yet..anyway I have my associates and trust me even though things look rough you will find something one day..I just went to an open house and met up with new BSN grad with awsome gpa's (better than mine) plus volunteering experiences as well as externship hours,dual licenses you name it...quess what...they cant find jobs!!! So trust BSN or not you will still have a rough time landing your first RN gig,good luck! Patience is the key...
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No. 21
from jbjelus1
Old Nov 05, 2009, 02:54 PM

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I am located in NY...I live in Long beach which is a city on Long Island. There are many freezes where I am. I went through this same situation when I recieved my BS in Emergency and Disaster Management...the field was saturated with police officers, firemen, and paramedics and there were little entry level jobs. So that is why I redirected my studies to nursing. Now this is happening...if it was for bad luck I would have no luck at all. I'm not going to throw in the towel just yet...but the stress is slowly breaking me down (and I am a pretty strong individual)
Is it like that all over New York or just in Long Island. Things sure are a lot different now but I understand your frustration. I graduated in 2003 with my ASN, so the job market was a lot different then. If you are having a hard time finding a job in your area consider other options such reseraching areas in the state that have a great need for nurses, or maybe even relocating to a different state if it does not pose a great financial burden on you.
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No. 22
from jjjoy
Old Nov 05, 2009, 03:26 PM

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I agree with the folks who noted that the lack of BSN may not really be the reason for not being hired yet. We see from many people here that BSN new grads aren't being hired in several areas either. I think it's easier for the hiring office to tell ASN new grads "BSN required"; they just give a different reason to BSN new grads that they aren't hiring either.
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No. 23
from caliotter3
Old Nov 05, 2009, 03:32 PM

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An ASN is not pointless. It provides the recipient the ability to sit for the RN NCLEX, obtain an RN license, and get a job as an RN. However, if one had the opportunity instead to graduate from a BSN program, but chose the ASN route, then there is added expense, wasted time, and added aggravation to go back for a BSN when they could have earned one in the first place.
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No. 24
from jbjelus1
Old Nov 05, 2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by caliotter3 View Post
An ASN is not pointless. It provides the recipient the ability to sit for the RN NCLEX, obtain an RN license, and get a job as an RN. However, if one had the opportunity instead to graduate from a BSN program, but chose the ASN route, then there is added expense, wasted time, and added aggravation to go back for a BSN when they could have earned one in the first place.
I do not think that it is a waste. Everyone may not be able to afford to go to school for four years. You have to think about those individuals who have families and are making sacrafices to go back to school for their ASN, and at some schools depending on where you go an ASN degree can be costly.
At one time I thought that it was a waste of time to go back for a BSN but as I started exploring my options, and started looking at the management route, I found that a BSN can come in handy, however if you are content with doing bedside nursing and you do not ever have plans to expand your experience, then I would say that an ADN is suitable, moreover it all depends on what you want out of a nursing career.
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No. 25
from kkia123
Old Nov 05, 2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbjelus1 View Post
Is it like that all over New York or just in Long Island. Things sure are a lot different now but I understand your frustration. I graduated in 2003 with my ASN, so the job market was a lot different then. If you are having a hard time finding a job in your area consider other options such reseraching areas in the state that have a great need for nurses, or maybe even relocating to a different state if it does not pose a great financial burden on you.
It is like this all over NY...The Nurse Spectrum job fair I attended was in NYC, and there were only two hospitals from Long island there. One of which was North Shore Long Island Jewish system, which is the third largest hospital system in NY. They are not hiring at all, so why they were there was beyond me. They do nothing directly to your face. 100%of their hiring procedures are online (nothing face to face-only if you get an interview). There is also a lot of internal job goers so our chances are even slimmer than we think. There's no HR office to walk into to make an impression. Everything is what you are on paper and all I'm saying is that if you have a BSN you may, excuse me, you will look better on paper. Which brings to my original point that it may be wise to eliminate AS programs in nursing if the new trend is BSN. Why waste a new graduates time or money?? and furthermore, EVERY hospital should have fellowships and Internships year around to staff their facilities if they want experienced nurses. Every hospital website that I have been on in NY state has countless nursing positions available and their ALL asking for 1-2 yrs experience. Some even say 5!!! Are they kidding?? They should train the future nurses, so there won't be a "shortage" when people start deciding to give up and try something else! (although there's not much out there)
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No. 26
from caliotter3
Old Nov 05, 2009, 04:09 PM

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There is money to be had in ASN programs just as there is money to be had in LPN programs. As long as there is money to be made, these programs will exist. It is up to the industry to insure that the ASN RN route and the LPN route are no longer viable. Don't look for anything like this to happen any time soon.
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No. 27
from escapebigd
Old Nov 05, 2009, 04:10 PM

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Have you tried LTC's or just hospitals?
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No. 28
from us2uk4u
Old Nov 05, 2009, 04:20 PM

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Have you applied to LTC facilities in NYC? I know most people want hospitals but they are in the position to be picky now days. Try LTC, it might be not want you want in the long run but at least you can keep up your nursing skills in the meantime.
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No. 29
from kkia123
Old Nov 05, 2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by escapebigd View Post
Have you tried LTC's or just hospitals?
Both. Not too many LTC...I will try harder and look into these organizations.
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