artificial feeding-Terri Schiavo - page 58

I posted this here becaue I think this subject is something that we as nurses deal with on a regular basis.....Many many people state that they have a big problem with the feeding being stopped... Read More

  1. by   ~Kitty~
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    I usually do read every single post before I respond to a thread. However, I've not only stopped reading this one, but I have no idea if I responded to it or not. :chuckle

    Anyhow. My thoughts in a nutshell--and forgive me if I contradict myself--

    I don't think of Terri's death at this time as a natural thing, I think of it as euthanasia.

    Had the tube been pulled within the first few weeks of this dx, I would've been all for it.

    Now? I just really feel uncomfortable with the process.

    And it's so ironic that the Pope has had a GT inserted. Guess we won't have to worry about how that'll go, will we.

    The thread icon on the forum has a little ziggy arrow to indicate if you've responded to that thread.

    I agree with your post regarding timing of removal. It is wrong. They are killing an apparently robust, brain damaged woman.

    From what the media is saying this morning, Pope actually has an NG vs. GT. But I wonder if they removed it for his appearance at the window?
  2. by   RedSox33RN
    Quote from ~Kitty~
    BTW......has anyone here seen every post in this thread???
    Each and every one. I don't post much in here, but I will tell you that 99% of the posts in this thread are meaningful and well-written, more often than not with sources cited.

    I've learned, and am learning, a lot from the dedicated, caring professionals in this thread. I can't wait to join your ranks.
  3. by   RedSox33RN
    Quote from stevielynn
    I really think what contributes to the public's confusion about Hospice is that Terri wasn't a terminal patient, wasn't actively dying of any disease, she has lived 15 years in her brain-damaged state and her feeding tube was removed to allow her to die from dehydration and/or starvation and then she is getting morphine. The public is probably thinking "for what?".

    My own thoughts are Terri is not a good representation of the usual hospice patient. This is such a controversial case that she probably should not have been placed in a hospice.

    Moving her to a hospital or LTC would have at least let the other hospice patients and their families avoid this high-profile case. Since hospice patients are in the unique position of actively dying, it would have been nicer for them to be spared this.

    I work with hospice patients on occasion and our hospice nurses are awesome. The whole hospice program in my community deserves accolades for their commitment to their patients. The doc who heads our hospice is also wonderful.

    To mix Terri up with hospice patients I think does a disservice to the whole hospice movement. People are now going to associate it with the "right-to-die" movement. Regardless of whether it has nothing to do with that - the public is naive or uneducated or whatever.

    steph
    Excellent post, Steph! I belong to several non-nursing forums and private boards, and I'm constantly having to explain to non-medical-type people exactly what hospice is, but then I feel like I'm speaking out of the OTHER side of my mouth about why Terri is IN a hospice facility.

    It is hard for people to understand, and all the garbage being reported in the media is not helping. It's all very confusing, and I fear that hospice is going to get a bad name.
  4. by   RedSox33RN
    Dan, I didn't get a chance to respond after you posted it, but that was a lovely prayer you wrote the other day.
  5. by   webblarsk
    Quote from z's playa
    :deadhorse
    :yeahthat:
  6. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from z's playa
    :deadhorse
    Last I checked she was still alive.

    steph
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from wannaBEanRN
    Excellent post, Steph! I belong to several non-nursing forums and private boards, and I'm constantly having to explain to non-medical-type people exactly what hospice is, but then I feel like I'm speaking out of the OTHER side of my mouth about why Terri is IN a hospice facility.

    It is hard for people to understand, and all the garbage being reported in the media is not helping. It's all very confusing, and I fear that hospice is going to get a bad name.
    Thanks - having a bad day and took a break and came here and read your comment which made me feel better.

    steph
  8. by   Tweety
    Quote from ~Kitty~
    Steph,
    I have not seen every post in this thread, but every one of your posts I've looked at seems to be rational and thoughtful. I appreciate and compliment you on your strong and intelligent stance.

    ~Kitty~

    BTW......has anyone here seen every post in this thread???

    I agree Steph, I've been a Stevielynn fan for a long time. (We've disagreed a number of times and we still talk to each other, but she knows I'm right and she's wrong. LOL)

    I haven't read every thread either, for a while I was staying out of it, but I've never been one who can keep his two cents to himself.
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Tweety
    I agree Steph, I've been a Stevielynn fan for a long time. (We've disagreed a number of times and we still talk to each other, but she knows I'm right and she's wrong. LOL)

    I haven't read every thread either, for a while I was staying out of it, but I've never been one who can keep his two cents to himself.
    That is true - Tweety is always right.

    Lord, today has been a bear in all aspects - I'm looking forward to 3 p.m.
  10. by   webblarsk
    Quote from stevielynn
    Last I checked she was still alive.

    steph
    I think that was implying the over 700 posts on this thread! :wink2:
  11. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from webblarsk
    I think that was implying the over 700 posts on this thread! :wink2:
    And possibly that many of them are repeating the same things over, without regard to what has already been said.
  12. by   KRVRN
    I just have to comment that it's refreshing that we've been able to discuss this issue without the thread needing to be shut down for personal attacks and flaming. I've read or skimmed at least 99% of the posts in this thread (hey, when you're on maternity leave there's nothing to do but read allnurses twice a day, every day!) and almost everyone has a strong feeling one way or the other. And yes, a lot of what's being said is repetitive now, but oh well right?
  13. by   tridil2000
    There is a place in this world for Dr. Kevorkian! [/QUOTE]

    the man is ahead of his time!

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