artificial feeding-Terri Schiavo - page 49

I posted this here becaue I think this subject is something that we as nurses deal with on a regular basis.....Many many people state that they have a big problem with the feeding being stopped... Read More

  1. by   jeepgirl
    Michael Schiavo is both a respiratory therapist and a registered nurse.

    He testified in a malpractice case that he was studying nursing so that he could help take care of terri for the rest of her life.

    i guess that was for as long as he wanted her to live, huh?
  2. by   jeepgirl
    Quote from ScarlettRN
    According to the report filed by the guardian who was appointed by Gov Jeb Bush back in 02 or 03, Terri and her husband were trying to have a baby, and that doesn't sound like estrangement to me.

    do you know how stressful it is trying to get pregnant? it can cause estrangement or near estrangement.
  3. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from wannaBEanRN

    And this may be a dumb question, being that I'm a student and all, but WHY would a nurse follow Michael's orders (if that is indeed what happened, and I have doubts, but that is neither here nor there) or any other orders besides the docs? I know about critical thinking and how that comes into play, but if a family member told me not to turn/massage/ROM, etc., when I that is specifically part of my duties, why wouldn't I just continue to do it anyway? I don't mean to sound beligerent or anything here - I'm truly asking if this really happens nowadays, and if so, what nurses do about it. Ignore it? Chart it? Notify doc? All of the above?
    first of all, there's no such thing as a dumb question.
    whenever you encounter a belligerent family member who is giving you questionable orders, you go to your nurse manager. personally i'd go directly to the DON but i'm just saying some go up the chain of command.
    and YES! document what the family member said and who you spoke to about it. documentation is so very important.

    leslie
  4. by   Jenny99
    Quote from Twinkle Toes
    I know this sounds crude, but Terri's parents obviously have postponed their own grievance process and refused to deal with the idea that their daughter was to die. Unfortunately, Terri should have died a long time ago. In my opinion, the parents are very selfish at this point.
    No Twinkle Toes, it is not crude to say - you are 100 percent correct. The parents of Terri will long remember their legal struggles and the hatred of Michael rather than their precious daughter. Michael was 110 percent correct in his actions and I applaud him.

    jenny99
  5. by   begalli
    Quote from danu3

    It looks like Terry will die soon. I guess I'll say a couple of prayers for her now (and other people can join in too if they want):
    I am in no way, shape, or form a religious person of any type, but I wanted thank you for your touching words.

    This whole thing really is terribly sad.
  6. by   begalli
    We all have opinions formed on the basis of our own beliefs from what little we really know about the events surrounding Terri Shaivo's life.

    Whatever happened, happened. It doesn't seem to matter anymore does it?

    I just heard on the news that she's receiving morphine. That's good.

    This might sound weird, but I thank her for entering my life. Even though it was in such a strange way.

    May she rest in peace.
    Last edit by begalli on Mar 27, '05
  7. by   Twinkle Toes
    Quote from Jenny99
    No Twinkle Toes, it is not crude to say - you are 100 percent correct. The parents of Terri will long remember their legal struggles and the hatred of Michael rather than their precious daughter. Michael was 110 percent correct in his actions and I applaud him.

    jenny99

    Jenny99 - Thank you for your encouraging thoughts. For a minute there I thought I was the bad guy. What can I say I'm a realistic person and sometime people need to be brought back to reality. Hope you have a great Easter.

    Twinkle Toes.
  8. by   Tweety
    Quote from Twinkle Toes
    Jenny99 - Thank you for your encouraging thoughts. For a minute there I thought I was the bad guy. What can I say I'm a realistic person and sometime people need to be brought back to reality. Hope you have a great Easter.

    Twinkle Toes.

    I'm not saying I don't agree with you. However, we have to nonjudgementally allow them to come to reality in their own time, not ours. And we should be empathetic if they don't come to reality.
    Last edit by Tweety on Mar 27, '05
  9. by   Tweety
    Quote from Jenny99
    No Twinkle Toes, it is not crude to say - you are 100 percent correct. The parents of Terri will long remember their legal struggles and the hatred of Michael rather than their precious daughter. Michael was 110 percent correct in his actions and I applaud him.

    jenny99
    Good point. But look how long it took him to "come to reality". He tried years of agreesive and expensive treatment those first few years.
  10. by   ValerieB
    I think it's really ashame that all of this is boiling down to "winning" and not about Terry. I've said it before that Michael could have taken the easy way out a long time ago and gotten a divorce. I loved the prayer that someone submitted recently. It was beautiful. I hope that the Lord is wrapping his arms around Terri and when he does finally take her to his house, that she will be a gaurdian angel for others that are suffering with eating disorders. I believe that things always happen for a reason. Now, allot of people who never thought about a living will are getting one and maybe people are getting help for their eating disorders so they don't suffer like she did.
  11. by   jeepgirl
    Quote from Tweety
    Good point. But look how long it took him to "come to reality". He tried years of agreesive and expensive treatment those first few years.
    hum. so she would have wanted that treatment the first few years, but suddenly after he got that settlement he "remembered" that she'd rather be dead.

    sounds real likely to me!
  12. by   rach_nc_03
    Quote from jeepgirl
    5 times at least Terri has had severe hypoglycemic episodes. They have all been after he has visited, gone in the room and shut the door and told staff to not come in. He's suspected of injecting her with insulin. Her blood sugars have always been stable due to the uniformity of her diet.
    wait a minute- if she's on tube feeds, I can't see how her blood glucose levels have been stable. In the ICU where I work, patients on tube feeds are always on q6 hour glucose checks, and continuous tube feeds require q1 hour checks because of the tendency towards hypoglycemia.

    i don't see how this argument can be true.
  13. by   Jenny99
    Quote from Twinkle Toes
    Jenny99 - Thank you for your encouraging thoughts. For a minute there I thought I was the bad guy. What can I say I'm a realistic person and sometime people need to be brought back to reality. Hope you have a great Easter.

    Twinkle Toes.

    You are very selcome. The only other thing I have to say is that if the parents have had no sense of reality throughout this whole thing - they better find reality pretty quick.

    jenny99

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