Are you in Nursing for the Caring or the Cash?? Be Honest - page 9

hello i am currently in nursing school and the weirdest thing is how future nurses talk about how they are going to be getting paid!! it's as if caring is not involved in their frame of mind, this... Read More

  1. by   Nurse Becky
    I am just starting nursing school. This will be my second career, having quit my first to stay at home to raise my children. I am going into nursing for the following reasons (none more important than the other):

    flexibility
    benefits
    money
    I will make a damn good nurse
    having had 3 great pregnancies, labors and deliveries, I want to help other women have just as great an experience
    can work as a nurse well into my 60's
    opportunity
  2. by   Tweety
    Quote from roxannekkb
    Everyone should enjoy what they do for a living, not just nurses. But unfortunately, I find more of the opposite to be true. Many people dislike, hate, or are bored with their work. It is sad that we spend such a big chunk of our lives doing something that is unfulfilling or despicable to us.

    That said, nursing is now being advertised as this opportunity of a lifetime. An awful lot of people are going into nursing, or thinking about it, because they've been laid off recently, and are thinking of nursing only in terms of job stability. I suppose if you are out of work, and hungry, and in danger of losing your home, then working "just for the money" is not a bad idea. But many have absolutely no idea what nursing is really about, and enter it blindfolded. As a result, I've been hearing that there is a large drop-out rate in many nursing programs.

    While the "calling" concept of nursing gives me the creeps (that goes with self-sacrificing martyr), nevertheless, going into nursing is just not the same as switching from IT to law, or law to accounting, or accounting to teaching. This is an entirely different realm, and not everyone can handle it. Some people make it through school and are absolutely miserable--not even because of all of the negatives they may face, but just from the work itself. But they may stick with hospital nursing anyway, because it pays better than other areas.

    The best combination is to do what you love and be well paid. In lieu of that, even though not every nurse loves nursing, the pay for nursing should be equal to comparable professions. And not to get off on this topic, but that is why I believe that nursing should have a BSN minimum, just like all other healthcare professions. Nurses also need better defined job descriptions--like, if you're willing to mop the floor and pull the trash, well, the hospital will pay you as such. A physical therapist, as an example, generally needs a MS degree now to practice. They have a well defined job, no one expects them to pull the linens and trash at the end of the shift, or to stock the supply cabinet. They are also paid better than nurses.

    Nursing needs to do the same. Set a standard minimum of education, one standard. Have a clearly defined, professional job description. And demand to be paid for it. I guarantee more nurses will not only work for the money, but begin to love jobs they may now hate, because professional elevation garners more respect and better treatment. If you want to work for love alone, then go do volunteer work. Become a missionary or enter a convent. But please don't keep trying to bring down the rest of nurses. Just because you care, doesn't mean you have to starve, or make do without a retirement fund, or be unable to save for your child's college education.

    Anyway, the attitude needs to change. As long as nurses say, "But I love what I do, money isn't everything..." well, then what hospital on this planet is going to argue with you?

    I can't disagree with anything you've said and I appreciate the insight. The "nursing is a calling" line rubs me the wrong way as well.
  3. by   FNP2B
    quote:
    originally posted by uk_nurse
    i dont think many nurses are in it for the cash..........pay is dreadful especially here in the uk. it is most definately not easy money i asure you.

    sorry to hear that uk nurse...maybe you need to move to the us...the pay is great here...my wife is a 22yr old rn here in tx. and has been a nurse for a little over a year and is already making 52k a year. and she only works six days out of every 2 weeks. and i say again she has just started..she is going for her masters next fall. so ..i would have to disagree with you on the area of pay.....$52,000 anually for a 22yr old female is not bad money. the average income per capita here in the city that we live in is somthing like 21k a year and we live in a very large city...about 2 million in population...so yes i belive nurses are well compensated here. and the advanced practicing nurses here(msn) are making a little over 75k a year, so for about 2 more yrs of school almost a $25k return+more with experience..count me in!

    rn,msn,np= $$$,$$$

    "it's never to late to be what you might have been"
  4. by   Betty_SPN_KS
    I guess there's nothing wrong with "just for the money" as long as they're still a good nurse. I supposed that's possible? Or will it show eventually? Can we say "poker face"? LOL. I guess that's part of being professional.
  5. by   Dplear
    Quote from nurseunderwater
    Both.....I wonder though how long the "just in it for the money" contingent lasts doing floor nursing....

    I have lasted over 18 years now.....I am in it for the money. I will make over 120K this year working 3 days a week regularrly and maybe 1-2 days overtime a month. There is money in nursing.

    Dave
  6. by   Annabelle57
    Quote from Dplear
    I have lasted over 18 years now.....I am in it for the money. I will make over 120K this year working 3 days a week regularrly and maybe 1-2 days overtime a month. There is money in nursing.

    Dave
    Dave,
    Do you mind if I ask... are you an NP? Specific field? Specific area of the country? That's a great salary... and congratulations! :hatparty:
  7. by   Dplear
    Quote from Annabelle57
    Dave,
    Do you mind if I ask... are you an NP? Specific field? Specific area of the country? That's a great salary... and congratulations! :hatparty:
    I am a charge/staff nurse in Houston. I work pedi.

    Dave
  8. by   chris_at_lucas_RN
    oops... somebody else posted what I was asking, and I'd be being redundant if I left this here....

    :imbar
  9. by   All_Smiles_RN
    I decided on nursing for a number of reasons. The first thing that attracted me to the profession is the job security that comes along with it. As a child, my family struggled because neither of my parents had a "profession". Secondly, there is nothing in this world that I want more than to give my son a good moral upbringing. Being a nurse, I will be able to demonstrate first hand for him how important it is to have compassion for other people, something that I think is sorely missing in this world. Promoting health in my own community will benefit my family, friends, and neighbors. All encompassing, nursing is a role that will fulfill my needs and the needs of others. My question is this, what career could possibly be more fulfilling?
    ...Jennifer...
  10. by   EarthAngel
    My grandmother was an OR nurse and I grew up with her. She was my role model for life and I always admired her for being a nurse. She went back to school after having her 5 children and worked as a waitress while in school. I grew up wanting to follow in her footsteps but for the longest time, my life circumstances made that impossible. When I was finally abe to consider nursing as a career choice, I was pleasantly surprised at the pay, considering what I was making in my then-job. Let's just say.... the pay was an added incentive. I became an LVN in September 2003, and since I want to work in higher fields and would like more options in my career, I chose to continue with school, and am now in the LVN to RN transition program, graduating May, 2005. *crosses her fingers, toes and any other part of her anatomy that can be crossed.*
  11. by   riern
    Quote from lgflamini
    Lisa, are you in a LPN-RN bridge program? Maybe that's why your fellow students are talking about the money. Let's face it- a $10/hr pay increase is reason enough to go from LPN to RN.

    I don't understand why people knock the young ones who are actually in school, and making very wise career choices. At least they're not hanging around their parents' basements doing nothing, or out committing crimes, etc. How many of us have had other degrees, other careers, and later chose to go to nursing school? At least they're getting it right the first time. I say more power to them, no matter their reason for choosing nursing.
    Because those of us who are in nursing because we CARE about our patients and not just to get a good paycheck get real tired of cleaning up the messes from those who don't care. It really irks me to have to apologize for the poor care a patient received by one of these "I'm a nurse......guess what I make" people. They give nursing a bad name! If you just want to make money go into computers or something and leave the medical profession for those with a heart and genuine concern.

    Marie
  12. by   Koalablue
    Quote from riern
    Because those of us who are in nursing because we CARE about our patients and not just to get a good paycheck get real tired of cleaning up the messes from those who don't care. It really irks me to have to apologize for the poor care a patient received by one of these "I'm a nurse......guess what I make" people. They give nursing a bad name! If you just want to make money go into computers or something and leave the medical profession for those with a heart and genuine concern.

    Marie
    I've no doubt there are people out there that are in it purely for the money..though it surprises me they last more than two minutes in the job. It's a rather large leap to assume that because money and job security make the top of my list for reasons to become a nurse also somehow make me lazy, inefficient and a bad nurse.

    Someone who is lazy tends to be lazy in all areas of their lives, including in how they care for their own families. I'm choosing nursing because I care about my fiance and want to be able to help us build a secure future together. I care about the children we will have one day by having a safe (employment-wise), flexible job with many career opportunities no matter where I live. I'm prepared to work hard to achieve these goals. I also know my caring attitude will extend to those patients in my care. Yes, I enjoy the patient contact, yes I care about them - and I show it by studying hard, making sure I understand what I'm learning, turning up to work on time, getting done the things I need to get done each shift, handing out meds safely, providing a listening ear when needed etc etc - but I still want my pay cheque :P

    I'm no Mother Teresa. If I didn't have to work, I sure wouldn't! I might volunteer my time to help other people even if I won a million dollars, but it wouldn't be on a hospital ward doing what nurses do every day....you gotta pay me to be worn out like that!
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    LikeI said, one need not be mercenary or nun, to be a damn good nurse! There IS room for compromise and **most** who get into it "just for the money" don't last long. Yes, some experienced nurses do become "grizzled" with time and experience, but that is another story. I just have to respect what they have been through to get where they are today, even if they ARE crotchety. Sadly for many of them, quitting is not an option, cause like us, they need to eat. It's getting tougher all the time to retire and be at all comfortable.

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