Are they all like this?

  1. Are all facilities inconsiderate to their staff, totally unresponsive to their needs, violate their rights as union members and generally treat them as non-humans. Or are their hospitals that actually make you feel as if you are part of the team and are supportive of you and your career?

    I was at work tonight, and at 2100 I get a call from the nursing supervisor, to tell me as if I had not informed three different people in staffing/personnel, that I am not on the schedule after tonight. I told her I knew that and that I had apprised the appropriate people who chose to do nothing about it. She said "not to be bi*&chy but that is your concern not mine" then proceeded to tell me that even though I had already worked six days straight that I would also have to work tomorrow night. I informed her that my family had planned to take me out to dinner to celebrate passing boards, and she said you can do it Monday, I will schedule you for a day off then. I asked if I would receive overtime and ofcourse the answer was a resounding NO, afterall Sunday is the start of the week. And like I told her, you can't have it both ways, make me work Sunday because you want this to be my scheduled week END but then deny me overtime pay because it is the start of the new week. I got no where, as usual. I can not get a schedule out of these people to save my life, but I did receive 3 memos informing me that I forfeited my sign on bonus when I chose to go to another floor before my 366 day probation ended! Then I asked her why, with the fact that I had to contact her with a huge med error that no one had caught for 2 days, that she is insanely worried that I work tomorrow. I swear, you can make as many med errors as you want, be cavalier about assessments, but always work an entire weekEND no matter how many days before it you may have worked. I have an interview at another facility next Monday, but I am tempted to put in my notice now.
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  2. 16 Comments

  3. by   live4today
    Put your notice in NOW.....and run...not walk....and find yourself a much better place to work. Not all facilities disrespect their staff. You just have to be patient in finding the right one for you....next time don't rush in where fools care to work. :chuckle :kiss

    Now...go to bed and have sweet dreams of you "hugging your toes". ((((((((((huggietoes))))))) :kiss
  4. by   sjoe
    In nursing, as in several other fields, YOU WILL GET EXACTLY AS MUCH CRAP AS YOU WILL TAKE! But to answer your original question, of the 7 facilities in which I have worked as an RN, they have ALL: been unresponsive to RN needs. attempted to violate RN rights whenever it was convenient for them to do so, and treated RNs and other nursing staff with minimal respect. Why else do you think there is a "nursing shortage?"
  5. by   moonchild20002000
    I agree with Renee,time for you to move on!

    You will not have a problem finding another job!
  6. by   live4today
    originally posted by sjoe
    in nursing, as in several other fields, you will get exactly as much crap as you will take! but to answer your original question, of the 7 facilities in which i have worked as an rn, they have all: been unresponsive to rn needs. attempted to violate rn rights whenever it was convenient for them to do so, and treated rns and other nursing staff with minimal respect. why else do you think there is a "nursing shortage?"
    sjoe.....i hate to be the bearer of bad news and all, but......the main reason hospital admin and nursing admin gets away with treating nurses like crap is because nurses bytch about how they are being crapped on, but are not taking a stand and standing firm about not tolerating that flack. nurses need to put their foot down about the way they are being crapped on. they need to state what they will not tolerate.......and begin to apply a zero tolerance to that crap being dished out to them.

    the hospital admin and nursing admin both know that they can get away with treating nurses like crap because they know nurses need a paycheck to survive...therefore...they won't quit and go elsewhere. huggietoes situation at her job is a perfect example of what i am talking about here. she did not stand her ground with that supervisor, and say "no...i am having dinner with my family, and i will not work on such and such day as i already had it planned as an "off day", and will not change it for anything." she let the supervisor know that she would tolerate the crap she was dishing out by allowing the supervisor to "win". huggietoes needs her job.....therefore........nursing supervisor won that round. so the crap will continue as long as the demands are being met.

    the only way to clean up that crap is to stop tolerating it.....period!!! only we.....the s are going to make that pile of shickola disappear from our jobs. no one else in power can do this but us! and that's a fact, jack!
    :kiss
    Last edit by live4today on Aug 10, '02
  7. by   PJRNC2
    CONGRATULATIONS!!! On passing your boards!! Hope you get the job you want.
  8. by   Youda
    originally posted by cheerfuldoer


    sjoe.....i hate to be the bearer of bad news and all, but......the main reason hospital admin and nursing admin gets away with treating nurses like crap is because nurses bytch about how they are being crapped on, but are not taking a stand and standing firm about not tolerating that flack. nurses need to put their foot down about the way they are being crapped on. they need to state what they will not tolerate.......and begin to apply a zero tolerance to that crap being dished out to them.
    !
    :kiss
    cheerfuldoer, i love your posts! you always cut right to the point! yes, i agree here completely. we nurses, as caregivers and professionals, find it hard to stand-up for ourselves. but, now is the perfect time to do it, the nurses shortage gives us quite a bit of influence. recently, i filed a grievance where i work for "disrespect in the workplace." nothing really stupendous happened, it's just that i got tired of the snippy comments, the look-down-their-noses, lousy scheduling, and general *itchiness of managers. it's called "work place bullying" and it is a very real. for more on this subject, how to recognize it, and what to do about it, check out: http://www.bullybusters.org/def.html
  9. by   Lela RN
    One good way of not taking the flack is to always keep in mind that there are tons of vacant positions out there. The more we keep this in mind like- "I don't have to tolerate this from you, I can go elsewhere, and the pay may even be better." As long as you are a nurse you will always have a job anywhere. So think of it that way the next time some supervisor wants to change your schedule at the drop of a hat.

    Those people will run you life if you let them. These days you can work all 365 days of the year, if you called in on day 366 they'll still try to reprimand you. It's sad to say it but a lot of places just don't care about their nurses. The only thing you have left is to stand you ground.

    If worst comes to worst and your terminated for standing your ground; print up a resume' and copy a of you license, and chances are you'll be back to work in less than 72hrs. elsewhere.
  10. by   disher
    Huggietoes, I don't understand your schedule, most hospitals have set schedules for full-time and part-time staff. Casual staff usually let the management know their availability in advance so that they can know what they are working ahead of time (casual staff have to spend extra time communicating just to get their schedules clarified, it's one of the reasons I won't work casual again).
    Did the manager slot you for tonight's shift at the last minute? If this violates the union contract, submit a grievance. If working more than six shifts in a row means you are entitled to overtime than you should get it, check your union contract if you are entitled fill out an OT request and if you don't get it put in a grievance. Read you contract and refer to it in calm objective manner this will help you resolve scheduling and OT issues effectivly. If you are casual consider applying for full-time or part-time so you can have a set schedule and have time for your personal life.
  11. by   nimbex
    I'm confused... you weren't placed on the schedule and it was just about to start? (worked last night and am sleeply may have missed it)

    If you were not scheduled... you are not required to show up for work, despite the needs.

    My units we do a modified track / self scheduling thing. No one is ever switched with out their permission. if no swithches can be made I then try to "haggle with staff to switch".

    I can say only during the holiday schedule have I ever said "you will work this" (and it was because of an issue of fairness with an unfair employee

    I think we may be missing something but unless your days are clearly spelled out, IN ADVANCE you cannot be held to them.

    PS. Labor laws... you don't need to give a reason... "sick"... just "unable to fulfil requirement".

    never say why... it just gives reason to argue with you.

    Plus, if you've already come across this and just got your RN (congrats by the way).... you need to ask if your chosen facility has other choices....._
  12. by   live4today
    Originally posted by Youda


    Cheerfuldoer, I love your posts! You always cut right to the point! Yes, I agree here completely. We nurses, as caregivers and professionals, find it hard to stand-up for ourselves. But, now is the perfect time to do it, the nurses shortage gives us quite a bit of influence. Recently, I filed a grievance where I work for "disrespect in the workplace." Nothing really stupendous happened, it's just that I got tired of the snippy comments, the look-down-their-noses, lousy scheduling, and general *itchiness of managers. It's called "Work Place Bullying" and it is a very real. For more on this subject, how to recognize it, and what to do about it, check out: http://www.bullybusters.org/def.html
    Thank you Youda.......also thanks for posting that website...I plan to check it out later today. :kiss
  13. by   live4today
    originally posted by lela rn
    one good way of not taking the flack is to always keep in mind that there are tons of vacant positions out there. the more we keep this in mind like- "i don't have to tolerate this from you, i can go elsewhere, and the pay may even be better." as long as you are a nurse you will always have a job anywhere. so think of it that way the next time some supervisor wants to change your schedule at the drop of a hat.

    those people will run you life if you let them. these days you can work all 365 days of the year, if you called in on day 366 they'll still try to reprimand you. it's sad to say it but a lot of places just don't care about their nurses. the only thing you have left is to stand you ground.

    if worst comes to worst and your terminated for standing your ground; print up a resume' and copy a of you license, and chances are you'll be back to work in less than 72hrs. elsewhere.
    amen girlfriend! that's what i'm talking about!!! :hatparty:
  14. by   huggietoes
    Nimbex,
    It is considered self schedule, I gave them a list of days I was available, since my name was never put on the self schedule list. After alerting them of this in advance, nothing changed, gave them a list of days available, they totally disregard it. I could see if they needed me, but chances are 100% that I will get floated or someone, (not me ofcourse) will get canceled because there is too much staff. There are 1001 and one reasons to leave this place, management ranking #1, then ofcourse the fact that the community has come to the realization that they should look elsewhere for healthcare, so now the census is extremely low and the only patients we do have are elderly patients on a layover to their permanent placement at a long term care facility. This is another one of my concerns, as being new to nurses, I am terrified of losing skills that I just aquired, since the only skill I use now is crushing po meds. I am so frustrated with this hospital, and they put their hands up in the air and ask why they can not retain staff!

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