Are anti-vaccine people conspiracy theorists generally? - page 29

I have an old friend from years ago who I now keep in touch with on Facebook. Her posts are fascinating in the amazing variety of conspiracy theories, some outrageous, some maybe partially true.... Read More

  1. by   wtbcrna
    Quote from Kooky Korky
    Yes, it is now clearer about the religious beliefs.


    I don't know, nor do you unless you've checked with them, what the Duggars did or did not include in their sex education for their kids.

    They have numerous seemingly normal kids and one apparent problem child. Not too bad as far as the numbers go.
    So only one of their children is a pedophile. Well that makes everything so much better.
  2. by   wtbcrna
    Quote from Kooky Korky
    Maybe you can breathe easier since I am pretty much retired.

    You seem to need some huggies yourself, my friend.

    And again, flies, honey, vinegar. I'm not the only one who has remarked on your rudeness.

    You claim to be a nurse but you're so belligerent. Your goal is not to educate, rather to be right. Arrogant.

    Today science backs up one view, tomorrow it stands behind the opposite one.

    Why is it that every Fall a little flu virus knows to come out of hiding? Hmm?

    How did the 2 get sick when 95% of their herd were vaccinated?
    Again I don't care if you or anyone else thinks I'm being rude on this subject. I think anti-vaxxers like you are a danger to my family, myself, and my patients so I will continue to call out anti-vaxxers at every opportunity especially the ones that state they are nurses.

    The science of vaccines is clear and older than anyone alive. The flu vaccine alone has been in widespread use for over 80 years.

    You can post on a Internet forum, but you can't look up basic information on the internet?

    Study Shows Why the Flu Likes Winter - The New York Times

    Herd immunity has been explained over and over on here to you. People have posted easy to understand videos and you still don't understand the concept. I will give you another example: 95 people were given a quarter and told to put it in their pocket and then go exercise, but 45 of those people had holes in their pockets so how many of them do you think would drop the quarter out of the holes in their pocket?..
    Last edit by wtbcrna on Nov 2, '17
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  4. by   LibraSunCNM
    Quote from Kooky Korky
    Yes, it is now clearer about the religious beliefs.


    I don't know, nor do you unless you've checked with them, what the Duggars did or did not include in their sex education for their kids.

    They have numerous seemingly normal kids and one apparent problem child. Not too bad as far as the numbers go.
    Actually, I've seen many episodes of their show (before it was canceled due to the aforementioned sexual abuse!), and they're quite open about their beliefs and what they teach their kids. When the oldest son (aforementioned sexual predator) got married to his wife (whom he has since been publicly outed as being unfaithful to, using sites like Ashley Madison to cheat on her while he was out of town for his job at a right-wing "family values" think tank), they showed a clip of the insanely creepy CD they play for the couple in the limo on the way to the hotel room on their wedding night, explaining what sex is and how to do it now that they're married. Before that, the only education they provide is that sex is wrong, so they should cover themselves up, have a "buddy" with them at all times during childhood (because alone time for a teenager can only lead to one thing!) and that interactions with the opposite sex have to be supervised. The fact that only one of their children is a "problem child" (nice euphemism!) is not comforting to me, nor should it be to you, and actually still remains to be seen, since lots of their children are still very young.

    *Ending thread tangent into Duggar territory*
  5. by   Beldar_the_Cenobite
    Quote from KatieMI
    According to my own purely anecdotal observations, many anti vaxxers are just deeply disquiet about multiple life issues which may not have anything to do with vaccinations. Anti-vax movement provides them a convenient and even kind of fashionable outlet to express denial, undoing and all other negative defensive mechanisms, whatever the real cause(s) of their dissatisfaction with reality and life might be.
    Lmao this is probably the greatest comment I have ever read regarding highly intelligent people who just refuse to be practical people.
  6. by   cuddlebug
    Actually unvaccinated kids are more likely to have college educated wealthy parents. I don’t think that they’re all conspiracy theorists. Maybe some have already had a child that became autistic after a vaccination. In time more information about the studies of vaccinations will come out. Then everyone can come back to this forum and read all the comments.
    The unvaccinated, by the numbers - CNN
    Last edit by cuddlebug on Nov 2, '17
  7. by   brownbook
    Quote from cuddlebug
    Actually unvaccinated kids are more likely to have college educated wealthy parents. I don't think that they're all conspiracy theorists. Maybe some have already had a child that became autistic after a vaccination. In time more information about the studies of vaccinations will come out. Then everyone can come back to this forum and read all the comments.
    The unvaccinated, by the numbers - CNN
    Almost all the wealthy college educated parents I know have either inherited their wealth or have computer/technical jobs. Computer science majors require very few hard science courses beyond biology 101 etc., I wouldn't value their knowledge of vaccinations and the immune system very highly.

    Please please please tell me you are not a college educated registered nurse who believes vaccinations cause autism.

    PS I am proud to say I do not know who the Duggars are and am sorry I even glanced at some of the posts about them. I am so sick of this thread. Maybe I should post something really nasty so the administrators will close it!
    Last edit by brownbook on Nov 2, '17
  8. by   wtbcrna
    Over a thousand research studies and still more ongoing research shows no causation between autism and/or autoimmune diseases. Press Release : Health and Medicine Division
  9. by   Kooky Korky
    Quote from wtbcrna
    So only one of their children is a pedophile. Well that makes everything so much better.
    It is what it is. As you should know, life isn't perfect. Including the Duggars. Or would you like all 447 of them to be pedophiles? You're just looking for any way to spew venom. Count me out.
  10. by   Kooky Korky
    Quote from brownbook
    Almost all the wealthy college educated parents I know have either inherited their wealth or have computer/technical jobs. Computer science majors require very few hard science courses beyond biology 101 etc., I wouldn't value their knowledge of vaccinations and the immune system very highly.

    Please please please tell me you are not a college educated registered nurse who believes vaccinations cause autism.

    PS I am proud to say I do not know who the Duggars are and am sorry I even glanced at some of the posts about them. I am so sick of this thread. Maybe I should post something really nasty so the administrators will close it!
    Or just drop off of it. Why stay here if you're so upset with it?
  11. by   Kooky Korky
    Quote from wtbcrna
    Again I don't care if you or anyone else thinks I'm being rude on this subject. I think anti-vaxxers like you are a danger to my family, myself, and my patients so I will continue to call out anti-vaxxers at every opportunity especially the ones that state they are nurses.

    The science of vaccines is clear and older than anyone alive. The flu vaccine alone has been in widespread use for over 80 years.

    You can post on a Internet forum, but you can't look up basic information on the internet?

    Study Shows Why the Flu Likes Winter - The New York Times

    Herd immunity has been explained over and over on here to you. People have posted easy to understand videos and you still don't understand the concept. I will give you another example: 95 people were given a quarter and told to put it in their pocket and then go exercise, but 45 of those people had holes in their pockets so how many of them do you think would drop the quarter out of the holes in their pocket?..
    Depends on the size and location of the holes and probably the type and vigor of the exercses.

    Rude wins you no points, dude.

    I probably live no where near you, I am no danger to you or yours. You should learn the maxim that it is much better to try to educate than to be rude and angry toward others, even if you hate people.

    And you still haven't bothered to answer my questions, reasonable though they are. Silly.
  12. by   wtbcrna
    Quote from Kooky Korky
    It is what it is. As you should know, life isn't perfect. Including the Duggars. Or would you like all 447 of them to be pedophiles? You're just looking for any way to spew venom. Count me out.
    As stated on numerous posts and for numerous reasons they are not reasonable or good examples of family life in the US.
  13. by   wtbcrna
    Quote from Kooky Korky
    Depends on the size and location of the holes and probably the type and vigor of the exercses.

    Rude wins you no points, dude.

    I probably live no where near you, I am no danger to you or yours. You should learn the maxim that it is much better to try to educate than to be rude and angry toward others, even if you hate people.

    And you still haven't bothered to answer my questions, reasonable though they are. Silly.
    We have answered your questions over and over and over again. Unless you live in a plastic bubble you will come in contact with the flu through other people and even just the surfaces around you. With a 40-60% flu vaccine efficacy rate it is easy to see how people get the flu still after having the flu vaccine, but even though they get the flu after the vaccine the flu extent is usually shorter and less severe.

    You don't want to be educated. You want someone to confirm your biases. I'm not that person.

    Anyone that chooses not to vaccinate is a danger to everyone and distance hardly matters. When you can go from one end of the US to the other in a few hours distance is nearly meaningless.

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