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No. 30
from Fiona59
Old Dec 11, 2007, 09:44 AM

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I honestly think some people here are mixing up "culture" and "religion". The niquab is a cultural requirement, usually tribally based. It screams infection control issues.

The Muslim patients in my area range for very conservative to the "I don't eat pork" and that's it type. What is most noticeable is the newly arrived Muslims are far more "female staff only" than those who have been raised here or are of a different educational status.

We remember only too well the husband who demanded that no males be allowed into the room his wife was in. No male cleaners, doctors, nurses, or husbands/visitors to the other patients. The charge nurse pointed out that the on-call that weekend was male and he basically told her to find a female OB to treat his wife. Hospital relations got called in and the next thing we knew the wife was discharged. Luckily her condition wasn't life threatening but more of a precaution due to her recent departure from a refugee camp. We never saw them again and I've always wondered who delivered her and which hospital in town would have accomodated his requests and behaviours.

Like I said culture not religion.
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No. 31
from Charleta
Old Dec 11, 2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jawharah View Post
Assalaamu alaykum....Hi everyone. Wow I feel popular. I have a ?. Who "spoke" a non-English words? Did I miss something?

For Birdgardner and everyone wondering about my "mask" (niqab), well this is something I have been thinking a lot about lately. I have worn the veil for 5 1/2 years and it has really become a part of me. Even though the ruling goes that I CAN take it off (it is optional) but like I said it has become a part of me. However, if I somehow can't make it work, then I will remove it while at work. Cultural tolerance IS a two-way street, but this is more than a culture to me. Culture to me is something that is done simply because the people in that area do it. This is different; this is RELIGION, a belief system. That said, since people aren't as used to Muslim women in niqab, until they do, I will accommodate them as much as I can.
In the future, I plan to work with women/kids, but I will cross that bridge when I get there, God willing.

As far as the niqab/abayah NOT being "pretty" or whatever, to each their opinion but in the Muslim world (the PIOUS Muslims anyway), the more a woman obeys her lord and follows her religion, the more beautiful she is. There is nothing more beautiful than a woman who cherishes her body and preserves it, at the same time forcing the world to see her "mind" and who she is inside.
I have spent half my life here, always observed Islamic dressing, and I have always been able to do anything and everything! People who react to me in a certain unpleasant way when they first see me, change their minds about me very quickly when they get to know ME. Just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, so to speak.

Jawhara,

The non-English words are the ones we used, like the Islamic greetings and 'masha'Allah', etc. I admit I'm so used to writing and speaking like this that I forget.

To all here, I mean absolutely no disrespect and I offer my apologies.

BTW, I understand about the niqab (or face veil) as I used to wear it myself and, as you mentioned, it does become part of you! But I eventually decided to part with it due to the change in my lifestyle, i.e. school. So, I understand exactly where you are coming from.

I don't know how this works, but I wish I could e-mail you as I would enjoy hearing more about the community where you live.

Take care, everyone!
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No. 32
from firstclass
Old Apr 08, 2008, 06:15 PM

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i am a muslim RN. I do not observe hijab. But i dress modestly. I love being a nurse. I work in long term care and I think it is the best area to work.
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No. 33
Old Aug 14, 2008, 09:42 AM

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Hi

im a Muslim male nurse and i know of at least two other MMNs here in melb aust and being an area of necessity i work with both male and female pts. ive never had a problem swappin pts that request females. i was in hospital for the birth of all 4 of my kids we requested female doctor and they said they would do their best to accommodate and only for the 2nd child that wasnt possible. the male doctor come in once and after doing the usual checks was happy and said he would only come back if required we understood times of necessity and accept that. so all 4 of our kids were delivered by wonderful mid-wife nurses. i have a longish beard and thats never been a problem even when i worked in theatre just needed two masks to fit my beard in =/. and i work my breaks around my prayer times.

i do believe it would be harder for the female muslims not because of the dress code so much but due to ignorance and uncompromising attitudes of some people. people like to throw around 'infection control' when Muslim women don't want to uncover their forearms. do you say the same for doctors who don't roll up their shirt sleeves? some wouldn't even have the guts too. even when looking into the niqaab or face veil if secured correctly it shouldn't be any more an infectious issue then any other clothing even surgical mask and hearing isn't a problem try it yourself with a sheet/ surgical mask.

well hopefully as more people from different cultures/religions enter nursing these sort of issue will come a thing of the past we just need to be a bit more accommodating rather then my way or the highway.
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No. 34
from CHATSDALE
Old Aug 14, 2008, 09:45 AM

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let us hope that we live in a world that embraces all the people and utilizes all talents
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No. 35
Old Aug 22, 2008, 02:15 AM

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I just came across this old thread and feel that I should post a reply. I just want to say that I was born muslim and have always been one. I do not cover my face at work, but I always wear long sleeves jacket on my scrub and my pants are all very roomy. I cover my head with a scarf and I have never had a problem with any patient or a staff member. Infact, I get along with everyone at my job.

Good to know there are muslim nurses aboard allnurses.
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No. 36
from invisigoth
Old Oct 22, 2008, 11:04 AM

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I'm not muslim but I do wear a headcovering during clinicals. Most everyone thinks I'm a muslim. I guess it's because of my skin tone.
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No. 37
from rph3664
Old Oct 22, 2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fawzia View Post
Thank you all for your replies. I wasn't sure how strict nursing schools are on uniform policy.

I'm wondering also: is wearing pants required. Can a nurse wear a scrub shirt with a same coloured skirt?
I can't imagine a school or hospital not allowing skirts, and here's why: Many Pentecostal Christian women do not wear pants either. I know several who always wear skirts or dresses, in addition to not cutting their hair or wearing makeup, and have never encountered problems with this.

My area has a very small Muslim population (almost all of them are physicians and their families), and most of the women do not cover their heads.
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No. 38
from aiyah_d
Old Dec 24, 2008, 12:29 AM

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salaam alaikom i am an american muslim whom just recently became a nurse. honestly the best advice i can give is treat the patient the way you want to be treated. i never had an issue. when i told my patients i would do something i always came through.it is important to establish this type of trust with any patient. stereotypes will break down you will see. i never went into detail about religion. in re to my hijab i just explained it as "its like what the nuns wear" this seemed to make it easier to understand without making it akward. your collegues will learn to see you for who you are not what falsified info they hear. may Allah make it easy for you. also try new ways to do hijab to make it easy to put in your stethoscope i wear mine spanish style with a turtleneck pinned at the side im still all covered with easy access after all it would be unprofessional to be fussing with all the fabric to do an assessment just a tip contact me anytime...ma salaam
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No. 39
Old Dec 24, 2008, 01:12 AM
Updated Dec 24, 2008 at 01:13 AM by Not_A_Hat_Person

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I had a classmate who was Muslim and wore a hijab to clinical. It was hard to cover with a surgical bonnet, but otherwise she didn't have any problems with it.

If your religious beliefs require wearing a skirt instead of pants, talk to your program. My Muslim classmate wore pants most of the time, so she had no problem wearing pants in clinical.
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