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This is going to be a "longey", so I apologize in advance. I have lots to say. This is in chronological order. I should tell you up-front, that all of these occurences, other than 2, have occured "in private", with no witnesses.

My nursing unit's Christmas party, for various reasons, was cancelled and is now rebooked for not a dinner, but a luncheon, on February 8th. I've now found out that it is going to be used as a "going-away" party for my unit manager, who is moving to another hospital. Although I had signed up to go to the original function, I have changed my mind and am getting some "flack" from my co-workers.

My unit manager has been that since 1995. She is UM for several units, and I also work permanent evening shift, so I don't see her very often (one way to keep my sanity). When she first became UM, one of my co-workers (who still works in the unit) informed her that another co-worker (whom the UM had a past history with and disliked intensely) and I were "best friends". It wasn't true, quite the opposite, but I was never asked.

Several weeks after "Joan" (pseudonym) was told this, she tapped me on the shoulder and whispered in my ear "I think that it would be a good idea if you found yourself a different friend". I was, to put it mildly, surprised that she would even think that what I did outside of work was her business.

Eventually, this staff member departed for "greener pastures", but it seems as if "Joan" decided that, since she can't get at "Lois" (pseudonym) in person, she'd "get at her" through me. At least, that's how it's felt for the past 7 1/2 years.

I have a MsN (and am finally, after a number of years, finishing up a PhD in anthropology, an interest of mine). I also have postgraduate certificates in operating room nursing and neonatal nursing.

In front of several patients, "Joan" announced that she "felt" "as if you have very little basic nursing knowledge". ALL of my co-workers just turned and looked at her. I decided that she, who neither has a degree nor has even finished her managerial certificate, must be very insecure around someone with more education. I've never "rubbed her nose in it" either.

I take transit. She suggested that "you buy a car and become normal, like everyone else". In front of a patient. But not in front of staff.

I was working on updating my post-graduate nursing course in neonatology, had taken ALL of the theory courses, and needed a "workplace reference" from my unit manager. She wrote on the required form (I still have it, by the way) that "I have been asked to give a workplace reference for this nurse. This course has nothing to do with her current employment". No reference, no clinicals. I was out >$4000 in tuition expenses and had 2 years of studying (part-time) go "right down the tube".

My son died August 28th, 1997. When I came back from my stress leave of 15 weeks, she took me into her office and said "Eric's dead. Get over it". This is a woman who has never been married, has no children, raises dogs. And, no, I've never gotten over it. No one "gets over" their child dying.

Whenever I have asked to have the anniversary of his death off, I've been turned down. "Prime time", "not enough seniority".

My university advisor for my PhD told me that he had recommended that I be a part of a panel discussion. Two months prior to it's occurence. I requested an "LOA" for that date, with the reasons, and submitted it to "Joan". She turned me down flat, "too many staff off on that date". Another graduate student took my place. When the day rolled around, she was the only staff member off. I've never been asked to take part in a panel discussion again.

Two years after her brother died, my one remaining child, my daughter, turned the same age as her brother when he died. My daughter had an emotional meltdown and had to be hospitalized. The day that I had to have her admitted to the psychiatric unit was my day off. I spoke with my CRN and asked for the next day off as a "family emergency leave day". Ruth agreed (she has kids). When I got home the next night, from the hospital, I had a message on my answering maching from "Joan". "Just who do you think you are, asking for an FELD". I'm not okaying it, and you'll get no pay for it. Phone me on Monday (which was another day off of mine) and explain your behavior".

I actually phoned back and let a message on her answering machine, apologizing. Okay, so I grew up with a Scottish Presbyterian mother, the closest thing to a Jewish mother that you can get without being Jewish. And am a Southerner to boot. Genetically cursed with guilt. LOL. After I hung up, I thought, screw that, called her back and left 2 messages, tellling her that the morale in the unit was lousy, and that, like Harry Truman, the buck stopped at the top, with her. I also told her that I would not be phoning her and, furthermore, I would never speak of this with her, period. I actually was astonished that I still had a job when I went to work on Tuesday.

I have tried to "get out from under" by applying to two other units (for which I am WELL qualified educationally) in my hospital. I've also applied to another hospital, although this meant that I would lose my seniority. I've actually had the managers leave message on my answering machine, "phone back, I'd like to talk to you". When I've returned the calls, they were always "not in at the moment". None of them ever returned my phone calls. What I found out was that, in fact, my UM refused to give me a reference.

The final straw was being turned down for my "1st choice" vacation request for this year. My daughter-in-law is Japanese. Her father collects rose petals, and makes a point of going up to where Eric's ashes are scattered on Mt Fuji, on his birthday and anniversary of his death. He and Naoko go there often, but he goes specifically on these two days.

On those two dates, Eibou goes to the site, and performs a Buddhist ceremony in honor of Eric, burning incense and sprinkling petals.

I specifically requested the last week of August off, writing on the request form that I wanted to go to "this special ceremony, given in honor of my son's memory". We "plot" our vacation requests on a big wall calendar, and I had written next to this request "to go to Japan". I was told to erase my "reason", otherwise "your co-workers will feel obligated to rearrange their vacation requests". "Since this is a very special reason for that time, I'll give it serious consideration". She turned me down flat, "not enough seniority".

I tend to run under the theory that "you can go for me if you want, but touch my kids and you're dead meat".

I have a "benign soft murmur". When I "stress", I shunt. It's not much fun, rather frightening in fact. When I was originally diagnosed two years ago, I had ALL the classic symptoms of an MI. I wore a holter monitor for 24 hours, turned out I was allergic to it's "stickies". LOL. I now take an antihypersensive and, for my own sanity, an anti-depressant. I also "grind my teeth".

I've hung in with this job for so long because I like what I do. I also like my "permanent line", and having weekends/statuatory holidays off isn't bad either. I'm also retiring in another 3 years, 8 months, 6 days, but who's counting.

On the day that my UM announced that she was going to be leaving shortly, I'd actually come to work with my resignation. I'd decided that I just couldn't deal with this woman, who'd made my life a living hell, anymore. Didn't know what I was going to do but knew that it was either she had to go or me. Figured it was going to be me. I was wrong. I suspect that my BP dropped right back to normal.

I spent 4 years in the USAF and am well aware that one does not have to either like or personally respect the person wearing the rank, one just salutes the collar dog. I don't feel that I owe this woman any respect, and by going to "her" party, I'd be giving it.

So, am I being "childish" as one of my co-worker's has said. Or "going to ruin the occasion" if I'm not there? "After all, Katherine, she's leaving". Or should I go and be my usual polite self, smiling at her and silently wishing her good riddance?

Thanks for letting me emote about this.

Specializes in Telemetry, Case Management.

Don't go. I would have strangled her years ago.

EVIL EVIL EVIL

ppl like that will get what is coming to them

okay so I sound more spiteful then I mean to , or maybe not, I dont know, this woman is wicked...

I wouldnt go, I would go out with ppl who love me and who I love being around, get all dressed up, go to a nice place, and have a toast in her name "I would like to raise my glass in honor of ______

my world will be a much happier place without you in it"

seriously though , she is a nasty pooor excuse for a human being , and although I dont know her enough to say that, the lack of common decency she shows her fellow humanbeings is enough to convince me...

kudos to you for being the way you are about this whole thing .. I admire you

:)

My God! I wouldn't go to her party and I don't even know her personally. I am so glad I never wound up at a hospital like that. I have never had a NM be that terrible! Don't go, just drink a nice glass of wine by yourself in a bubble bath (preferably with a nice looking man;)) and enjoy the fact that you will never have to work with this woman again.

Ignore the whole situation. I wouldn't even give it any more thought or consideration. Don't go and don't discuss it. She is a total bi*ch and doesn't deserve the energy it takes to blink an eye. I agree have a personal celebration, buy yourself something special or do something fun that you haven't done in ages. Call an old friend for coffee, but please don't go to that party.

I'm sorry to hear about your son, I can't imagine how difficult that has been for you. Enjoy your trip to Japan and honoring his memory.

we had a charge nurse retire recently who was a very nasty person as well. however several of us did not take her crap, and we are union so we didn't have to. she did not have the "power" of a unit manager . but, oh , how she wanted it. none of us who had worked with her participated in the potluck given for her about two weeks prior to her departure. the manager(who had just come to our unit) arranged it. not her coworkers . as a matter of fact, on her last day of work, we had a b-day party for one of the other nurses, ordered pizza and cake, and did NOT include her. she saw the pizza come and rushed into the breakroom. i walked into the breakroom without saying a word, picked up the pizza and moved it to another area where all the rest of us ate. i felt no guilt at all. i don't think you should go to the party. too bad all your other cowokers can't be no shows too. take care of yourself.

Specializes in ICU.

I am so sorry that you had to endure all this! Egads! What a horrible, horrible woman!

Do NOT let anyone guilt you...you have every reason to decline!

If I were you, I wouldn't go. And I wouldn't let anyone make me feel guilty about it, either. You owe her nothing.

Parties are always optional, even if you LIKE the person.

I am going to just echo what everyone else has said and say God Bless you for having put up with this woman's crap and harrasment for so long. You must be a saint or extremely dedicated to your job to have tolerated her for so long!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for the party, it's quite a quandry if you ask me. If you do not go, you have sent her the message that you will not miss her and you can celebrate all by yourself, celebrating your freedom from captivity.

On the other hand, my mother has always taught me that the best way to drive someone who dislikes you and has been horrible to you is to kill them with kindness. It gets there goat more than anything because they don't know how to deal with you. You could always go, and offer to propose a toast to her leaving, going on and on about how you hospital "won't be the same without her" (and you won't be lying) and how you truly wish her the best of luck at her new place of employement and hope that she really, really loves it there (and I'm sure that you do, because that means she continues to stay out of her hair). In the end you end up looking like a better person and she looks like a fool for having been so horrible to you and you have been so kind to her (even thought secrectly you know what you really meant by those statement). After you have made the toast you can make your grand exit. That way everyone is happy, you showed up at the party and you got a little dig in at the same time.

That is just my opinion, but in all seriousness you have to do whatever is in your heart. Don't let your co-workders goad you into going if you don't want to. They haven't been through what you have with her.

And for the record. I don't think she was trying to get at that other person through you. I think she was intimidated by you and was dealing with her own insecurites. It sounds as if you were better qualified for the job than she and she probably knew it. She just wasn't mature enough to know how to deal with it and harrasing you was the only way she knew how.

(sorry so lengthy)

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

I wouldn't go, and I would tell a couple of coworkers why. It'll get around right back to her. Why worry about her feelings when she obviously couldn't give a rats ass about yours.

I'm a polite southerner too, born to stuff feelings and be polite. But nursing has squashed those qualities right out of me. Not if I'm to survive.

Don't go. While I think it would be really cool if you could pull off giving a really mushy toast in her honor, it wouldn't be worth the stress it would cause you. I agree with LPNtoBSNstudent, just forget about it. Your co-workers can't run your life. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

WHAT A WITCH! I wouldn't attend the party and would not feel the least bit guilty. Take the day off and celebrate by doing things that you most enjoy. This manager sounds like one that was at my hospital until she finally was canned a couple years ago - staff went around humming to the tune of "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" for days.

WHAT A WITCH! I would not go to the party and would not feel the least bit guilty, regardless of what my peers had to say about the situation. Take the day off and celebrate yourself - do some of the things you most enjoy - pamper yourself. This UM sounds like one that was at my hospital until she was finally canned a couple years ago. Her staff went around humming to the tune of "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" for days.

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