A Nurses Duty to act - page 4

I'm looking for opinions for a situation. Is it a nurses duty to get immediate medical treatment ( I'm meaning call 911 ) for a person in their home who has a medical emergency? I'm not asking... Read More

  1. by   KelRN215
    Quote from Flatline
    For some things professionals are required to go above and beyond. The best example I can think of is teachers and healthcare professionals being mandatory reporters of abuse.
    In our professional life, yes. The law doesn't mandate us to report suspected cases of child/elder abuse that we come across in our personal lives.
  2. by   ruby_jane
    Quote from KelRN215
    In our professional life, yes. The law doesn't mandate us to report suspected cases of child/elder abuse that we come across in our personal lives.
    Actually, here in Texas all adults are mandated reporters...
  3. by   psu_213
    Quote from ruby_jane
    Actually, here in Texas all adults are mandated reporters...
    I don't doubt what you are saying, but I'm thinking....

    What is the standard that someone is supposed to use when deciding to report child abuse? For example, what about when you are in a department store, hear a kid in the next aisle screaming as mom yells "let's go." A few seconds later you hear the kid yell "quit pulling me like that...I think you broke my arm." Is a lay person supposed to report that?
  4. by   ruby_jane
    Quote from psu_213
    I don't doubt what you are saying, but I'm thinking....

    What is the standard that someone is supposed to use when deciding to report child abuse? For example, what about when you are in a department store, hear a kid in the next aisle screaming as mom yells "let's go." A few seconds later you hear the kid yell "quit pulling me like that...I think you broke my arm." Is a lay person supposed to report that?
    AH! Whelp...we don't have to prove, just suspect it. Having said that...in your example, probably not.
  5. by   Flatline
    Quote from KelRN215
    In our professional life, yes. The law doesn't mandate us to report suspected cases of child/elder abuse that we come across in our personal lives.
    Depends on your state. Some states have the requirement tied to duties in an official capacity, other states only state when you have knowledge thereof regardless of employment. Some states even expressly separate the law from employment stating that you are a mandatory reporter regardless of policy.

    Keep in mind that in nearly all states, all of them as far as I have researched, you are a licensed professional regardless of employment and subject to the restrictions put forth in or out of employment. There was a famous court case in Arizona where the board revoked the license of two RNs who were consensually engaging in pornography outside of their employment. Board thought it looks bad, pulled their license.
  6. by   Flatline
    Quote from psu_213
    I don't doubt what you are saying, but I'm thinking....

    What is the standard that someone is supposed to use when deciding to report child abuse? For example, what about when you are in a department store, hear a kid in the next aisle screaming as mom yells "let's go." A few seconds later you hear the kid yell "quit pulling me like that...I think you broke my arm." Is a lay person supposed to report that?
    Reasonable.

    "Another standard frequently used is in situations in which the reporter has knowledge of, or observes a child being subjected to, conditions that would reasonably result in harm to the child. In Maine, a mandatory reporter must report when he or she has reasonable cause to suspect that a child is not living with the child's family."
  7. by   psu_213
    Quote from ruby_jane
    AH! Whelp...we don't have to prove, just suspect it. Having said that...in your example, probably not.
    Do all adults know that they are mandated reporters? Again, just curious.
  8. by   Flatline
    Quote from psu_213
    Do all adults know that they are mandated reporters? Again, just curious.
    I doubt it, most people are unaware that it is a felony to join an unsecured WiFi network without permission according to the CFAA.
  9. by   VivaLasViejas
    Quote from Flatline
    I doubt it, most people are unaware that it is a felony to join an unsecured WiFi network without permission according to the CFAA.
    Yeah, that's a new one on me. Of course, it doesn't apply to me because I pay a bundle for cable + Internet, but it's good to know.
  10. by   psu_213
    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    Yeah, that's a new one on me. Of course, it doesn't apply to me because I pay a bundle for cable + Internet, but it's good to know.
    My guess is...and this is just a guess...that a majority of adult Americans have, at one point or another, joined an unsure WiFi network. Then again, more Americans would report obvious child abuse than worry about WiFi rules, which is not really a bad thing.
  11. by   ruby_jane
    Quote from psu_213
    Do all adults know that they are mandated reporters? Again, just curious.
    All adults who work in social services likely do. All adults in the giant state of Texas? Probably not.
  12. by   BlinkyPinky
    Interesting question.
    A nurse Educator ( with questionable abilities ) at my former workplace , told us that if we see an auto accident , and stop to look at it but do not go to help i.e.: I'm a nurse can I do anything??-

    we can be held liable if anyone subsequently " finds out " that we were a licensed nurse and watching ,but not offering help

    I actually don't know if she's right. But I never looked anything up to find out
    I don't mean don't call 911. I mean if we did t step in under the so - called Good Samaritan Law.
    The way she said it , it was almost like she was advising us that if we were ever going to be rubber- necking at an accident , DONT LET THEM KNOW you're a nurse
  13. by   wondern
    Rubber neckers cause even more accidents. I really make a conscious effort to 'not look' if help has already arrived. It's so dangerous and just to be nosy. It's even more life endangering and just for one's own curiosity. Move on people! Save lives!

    Seems like anyone seeing it needs to report abuse. Isn't that a given as a human being regardless of the law? It does make for a discussion though.

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