A note of deep concern and worry - page 4
My colleagues of all stages, please take a moment: There has been a rash of suicides and suicide attempts in my community and it has driven me to write this note. After the devastating loss of... Read More
Feb 11, '13Quote from LYNDAAAs for the bit about people with Master's degrees who do not work at the bedside not being real nurses, I encourage you to start a new thread and not hijack this important one. I'll meet you there; I'm a PHN with a Master's.You have valid points. Unfortunately, although the system is designed to be accessible to the 'handicapped' (for lack of a better word), it seems that it is basically geared towards those using mobility devices. I don't know the exact reason given to you for being failed; so you might want to take your concerns up the ladder a little bit if you feel it was unwarranted. Maybe you could become the pioneer to effect change in this regard. You're right in that there are so many nurses who know very little about mental illness. In fact, there are very many nurses who know little about nursing. I've seen those who went from CNA to an MSN without ever having passed a bedpan or administered an aspirin on the job. How they can profess to have 'mastered' the field of nursing defies MY definition of the world. But technically, they did the bookwork to say they are masters on the field. There are times when the Trainer needs to be trained. Often times, it is already assumed that you 'know' based on your credentials and as such, not questioned on your abilities to teach ALL that sit in your class when the actuality is that the ability to teach is limited to all HEALTHY students. Come to think of it, the last job application that I completed did ask, "Are you physically able to perform the duties of the job in which you are applying for?" it said nothing about mental abilities. Anyway, good luck to you in your quest to become a nurse. I do hope things work in your favor.
Actually, there is something called reasonable accommodations a student or employee may request. This is part of the ADA, which has been around since 1990. If you are struggling, there are options to discuss with your adviser. I think it's important for nurses to be aware of this piece of legislation. These little steps may aid in preventing what the OP was originally posting about. This excerpt pertains to employees, but could be applied to students as well.
What are "reasonable accommodations" for people with severe mental illness?
Examples of reasonable accommodations for people with severe mental illnesses included providing self-paced workloads and flexible hours, modifying job responsibilities, allowing leave (paid or unpaid) during periods of hospitalization or incapacity, assigning a supportive and understanding supervisor, modifying work hours to allow people to attend appointments with their psychiatrist, providing easy access to supervision and supports in the workplace, and providing frequent guidance and feedback about job performance. http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Sec...ontentID=47065
Feb 13, '13And may I add that committing suicide places family members at much higher risk for suicide themselves. Maybe "suicide is painless" for you; for your family it inflicts pain that lasts for generations.
Feb 13, '13Well said and very needed. We all need to be more aware and present to help.
Quote from CheesePotatoMy colleagues of all stages, please take a moment:
There has been a rash of suicides and suicide attempts in my community and it has driven me to write this note.
After the devastating loss of a nursing student, I just....I don't even know where to begin. So I'll start:
Please, please, please remember that in taking care of others, one most take care of oneself. Please remember no matter how dark, how down, how trapped you feel, there are people that care--that love you--that want to help.
Surround yourselves by people who are a positive influence. Give yourself the benefit of people who will boost you, watch out for you, and save you from yourself. Get out of bad or toxic relationships, regardless of who that relationship involves.
Be your own advocate.
Do not be ashamed of what you are feeling or what you are thinking. It doesn't matter if "someone else has it worse". Please do not, for one moment, think that if you sought help from someone who supported you, that you would be turned away.
Just talk, out loud, about what is going on. Let people help.
There is no bill worth more than you life.
There is no test score that should make you feel as if you are invisible.
There is no relationship that determines your worthiness of love or life.
There is no day bad enough not to merit a dawn.
Suicide is the number 10 cause of death in this country. This is a fact.
And I, for one, decry a society that believes that depression is just a bad case of the blues. I have seen the black dog up close and personal, thank you, and it is very real. It is a medical condition. And it can kill.
So I declare myself a safe haven.
If you need a shoulder, I am here. I am not the most empathetic individual ever created, and I may not be able to fix it, but I can listen. I can be genuinely present in the moment.
I am here.
If you are in need of help, please remember the following resources:
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline:
Google free counseling services for your area. There are many.
Keep in mind that there are counseling services offered through many employers.
Do your absolute best to get help when you feel the slouch of depression. Listen to your loved ones that worry, that ask you over and over if you are okay. They are seeing something you are not--trust them. When they tell you they love you, internalize it, believe it.
Please, take care of each other and yourselves.
Written off the cuff. and mistakes are all mine.
Feb 13, '13Im glad Im not the only one who has noticed an upsurge in suicides. For some reason I hear about it more and more. I have known quite a few aquaintences, then last week my brother hung himself. He lives 1200 miles from me, and I knew he had a mental illness that he would not seek help for. He would get on medicine then not stay on it. He suffered from major depression, bi-polar disorder and OCD. I too know what that dark place feels like. I take 150mg of Zoloft daily that keeps it in check for me though.
I dont know what has come over people, but I believe it is an ongoing trend that as nurses, we should be very aware of.
Thanks for posting this.
Feb 13, '13This is the result of a "Progressive" initiative to make people feel that suicide, assisted suicide abortion and even infantacide is OK.
Feb 13, '13A depressed economy has always been a harbinger for increased suicides. I would anticipate an escalation in that regard.
My personal therapy for depression is spending about 2 months a year camping in a tent with no running water , electricity , internet, television, etc... It kind of puts things in perspective.
Of course I am surrounded by guns, knives, tree stands, 4 wheelers and that durn cell phone.
I guess U can't have everything.
Feb 15, '13The OP is correct, there is help out there, there is no shame in grabbing the helping hand. YOU MATTER!
Sending lots of hugs and love.
Mar 5, '13My neighbors son was 28 this past year. He spent many an evening at my house after work till his mom, also a nurse, came home. The one thing worse than watching someone so young choose suicide and death instead of life is being the one to find the body and be unable to help. Somehow in spite of all the deaths I have seen in my many decades of nursing, this one I can't get out of my head. I know why. My own son died when he was 5 and somehow it has just opened the door to grief all over again. Right now knowing all this sounds intellectual, but emotions don't have IQ's and they just are what they are. Suicide does hurt those left behind, and not always just the family.
May 21, '13Hi, I just found this thread under "stickies" at the bottom of the page...Thank you, OP for posting this. I am so, so sorry for all of you who have lost someone to suicide. ((( hugs ))))