17 y/o girl who received wrong organs gets a second chance - page 8

DURHAM, N.C. (Feb. 20) - Doctors located an organ donor early Thursday for a 17-year-old girl clinging to life after she received a heart and lungs that didn't match her blood type, a spokeswoman... Read More

  1. by   Jay-Jay
    I have to step in here. So far, what I've read in this thread has been good, heated debate, with no personal attacks (save for that last post, which I've edited.)

    The other thread, started after Jessica's death has been removed temporarily, as the discussion had turned nasty, with posters attacking each other. Please don't let the same thing happen to this thread.

    You have a RIGHT to express your opinion. Others have the RIGHT to disagree with you, but not to attack you personally for your opinion, however wrong they feel it may be.

    I am leaving this thread open, but warning you to KEEP THE DISCUSSION CIVIL!
  2. by   Q.
    Thank you Jay-Jay. Excellent moderating.
  3. by   Hardknox
    MishlB, no one has a problem with a legal alien or an immigrant having help with food stamps etc. No one stated that. It is the ILLEGAL immigrant aspect that seems to bother so many people. There is no WOW about it.
  4. by   MishlB
    My comments are referring to the callousness I have seen, but I will refrain from saying anymore for I have been edited. I guess I am not allowed to express my opinions anymore.
  5. by   Q.
    Opinions are welcomed. Inflammatory personal insults are not.
  6. by   nurs4kids
    Originally posted by Susy K
    Thank you Jay-Jay. Excellent moderating.
    I agree..
    Excellent moderating, Jay-Jay!!
  7. by   ktwlpn
    Originally posted by MishlB
    My comments are referring to the callousness I have seen, but I will refrain from saying anymore for I have been edited. I guess I am not allowed to express my opinions anymore.
    What one may call "callous" another may call REALITY.....Our health care system is in serious trouble-no one can dispute it. ....Is it callous to look at cost? At fairness? Bottomline-2 sets of organs were bought for this patient-her family were not taxpaying citizens of the United States....
  8. by   Sally_ICURN
    Originally posted by ktwlpn
    ....Is it callous to look at cost? At fairness? Bottomline-2 sets of organs were bought for this patient-her family were not taxpaying citizens of the United States....
    Okay then, I think the issue itself should be discussed and not the particular people involved in the issue who have absolutely no way of defending themselves here. It's one thing to blast our president or another political figure publicly in this forum. It's expected and no one can deny that public figures or political party beliefs (in general) are just that...public, and usually access to information from both sides are available. The same could be said about any celebrity. But to so blantantly attack a family who we know nothing about is completely uncalled for and "callous."

    I just wonder if anyone even remotely connected to the botched transplant case came across this website and read what is being said about Jesica and her family, I wonder if you all are okay with the uncensored (or censored based on a moderators own opinions - no offense mods, your job is tough) opinions of the nurses here being out there for all to see? We all here represent nursing, is this the image you want added to our already misunderstood portrait? Not me.
    Last edit by Sally_ICURN on Feb 24, '03
  9. by   Q.
    Originally posted by Sally_ICURN
    I just wonder if anyone even remotely connected to the botched transplant case came across this website and read what is being said about Jesica and her family, I wonder if you all are okay with the uncensured (or censured based on a moderators own opinions - no offense mods, your job is tough) opinions of the nurses here being out there for all to see? We all here represent nursing, is this the image you want added to our already misunderstood portrait? Not me.
    I would have no problem with any patient reading what we write here. I am a nurse and that is my JOB - not a way of life. I have opinions and emotions and reactions just like anyone else. Being a nurse does not obsolve me of those very human traits.
  10. by   sunnygirl272
    Originally posted by Susy K
    I would have no problem with any patient reading what we write here. I am a nurse and that is my JOB - not a way of life. I have opinions and emotions and reactions just like anyone else. Being a nurse does not obsolve me of those very human traits.
    thank you. criminy.
  11. by   Sally_ICURN
    Originally posted by Susy K
    I would have no problem with any patient reading what we write here. I am a nurse and that is my JOB - not a way of life. I have opinions and emotions and reactions just like anyone else. Being a nurse does not obsolve me of those very human traits.
    Thank you for your honest answer Susy. I wonder if there are websites that serve as a forum for cops. I wonder if it would be a place for them to "vent" and speak what they truely feel about the citizens (or non-citizens) they serve? I'm sure the posts wouldn't be all positive. I think it would be kind of scary. It's one thing to vent to each other, even cops to nurses, but it's another thing when it becomes public.

    Don't anyone flame me for this. Nursing, like law enforcement serves the public. My wondering is valid.
  12. by   ktwlpn
    Originally posted by Sally_ICURN
    Okay then, I think the issue itself should be discussed and not the particular people involved in the issue who have absolutely no way of defending themselves here. It's one thing to blast our president or another political figure publicly in this forum. It's expected and no one can deny that public figures or political party beliefs (in general) are just that...public, and usually access to information from both sides are available. The same could be said about any celebrity. But to so blantantly attack a family who we know nothing about is completely uncalled for and "callous."

    I just wonder if anyone even remotely connected to the botched transplant case came across this website and read what is being said about Jesica and her family, I wonder if you all are okay with the uncensured (or censured based on a moderators own opinions - no offense mods, your job is tough) opinions of the nurses here being out there for all to see? We all here represent nursing, is this the image you want added to our already misunderstood portrait? Not me.
    I don't see where anyone has "attacked" this family-could you provide a quote or link to the offending post? I feel sorry for the family-IMHO they did the best they could do but I have the suspicion that they are being taken advantage of somehow by their benefactor.If not for financial gain then for revenge against the medical system for all the wrongs that he feels have been done against him... This is a nursing board and we all regularly vent regarding our jobs and the difficulties we face daily-I am sure that many a layman's hair would curl at some of our threads-but these threads contain OUR reality....and I don't really care how appearing "callous" affects the image of nursing...Any Joe Schmo with a lick of sense knows that we have to maintain our composure in the midst of our duties...Callous means"1 a : being hardened and thickened b : having calluses
    2 a : feeling no emotion b : feeling no sympathy for others
  13. by   Q.
    Originally posted by Sally_ICURN
    My wondering is valid.
    I agree it is, and I've wondered myself. But I think it actually serves our profession in a way, allowing people to realize what we do and that we are human.

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