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No. 10
from sharann
Old Jul 22, 2007, 10:20 PM

Default Re: My 1st colonoscopy - draping & pain questions
Originally Posted by psalm View Post
Oh, and I did my prep exactly as instructed.
I just had a Colonoscopy and EGD last week and the doctor told my husband that I had a poor prep. Husband told the doc, no way, my wife followed your prep to the LETTER.
I did, and it upset me that I was "accused" of not complying". Then the GI mumbled something about poor intestinal transit or something, he isn't sure what he was talking about.
I have IBD(Crohn's) and I never run clear after a prep. Even with enemas I always seem to have stuff left up somewhere. After Golytely and Dulcolax 4 pills and a liquid diet, clears... What can you do?
I also want to add I had SEVERE pain after the scope in my abdomen, distendened firm belly, I was in tears. I am not a sissy by the way(live with CD one can't be and work as a PACU RN). I was under anesthesia w. propofol(wonderful drug)and didn't feel a thing until after.
It was trapped air of course but it took alot of Demerol and alot of moving around to get it better. Thank goodness I had a very nice compassionate nurse caring for me in recovery area. It was 3 hours from start to finish!
Thanks for being there GI nurses and techs.
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No. 11
Old Aug 05, 2007, 07:51 AM

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Had my first colonoscopy and endoscopy last month. Several months ago I had been scheduled but the prep put me in the hospital. This new doc I saw did my prep differantly. No laxative pills, and drank the mix with orange drink.....McDonald's! I drank it in small doses over a 12 hour period, and if I was to start vomiting (thank goodness I didn't), I was told to take a fleets before leaving home.
I was sedated to the max. Saw nothing, felt nothing.
Has anyone in cyber space been diagnosed with diverticulitis?
I'd sure appreciate to hear what your S&S are, I'd like as much info as anyone is willing to share.
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No. 12
from core0
Old Aug 05, 2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chewchabuckala View Post
Had my first colonoscopy and endoscopy last month. Several months ago I had been scheduled but the prep put me in the hospital. This new doc I saw did my prep differantly. No laxative pills, and drank the mix with orange drink.....McDonald's! I drank it in small doses over a 12 hour period, and if I was to start vomiting (thank goodness I didn't), I was told to take a fleets before leaving home.
I was sedated to the max. Saw nothing, felt nothing.
Has anyone in cyber space been diagnosed with diverticulitis?
I'd sure appreciate to hear what your S&S are, I'd like as much info as anyone is willing to share.
Never had it but treated plenty. It presents like left sided appendicitis. Sharp LLQ abdominal pain usually accompanied by diarrhea with occasional bloody stool.

That being said I am amazed by the number of sub acute cases we see. In my previous job I saw people for pre op eval for colonoscopy. We had more than a few with LLQ tenderness. About half of those had mild diverticulitis that resolved with antibiotics.

David Carpenter, PA-C
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No. 13
from MeganNY
Old Sep 10, 2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsred View Post
I just had my first colonoscopy last week as well. I had researched the procedure and the meds used. My husband had his 2 year screening done in March and while sitting in the recovery area with him, I had heard 2 people scream. One was a woman who cried and hollered just like I remember myself doing at the start of the procedure.
I was uncontrollably crying as they wheeled me into the procedure room. I had a death grip on my husbands hand and was told that when the Dr told him he had to leave the procedure room I would not let go of his hand. He had to literally pry my fingers off of his hand to leave and this was after the sedative.
My blood pressure was 142/102 just after I saw the colonoscope on the nurses arm and I did not do very well in the beginning. I was so upset that the Dr. had a difficult time sedating me and ended up giving me 7 mcg of Versed and 200 mcg of Fentanyl plus oxygen.
I know that I felt pain when they started the colonoscopy, becaue I felt a burning/pain sensation going up my left side and I remember crying and whining Owe, Owe, Owe, and then it stopped and I don't remember anything else until I woke up in recovery and told both the Dr and my husband that they had lied to me, that the procedure hurt!

Thanks for listening and allowing me to vent
Does anyone know if Drs are open to an alternative to Versed? I am having a c-scope in a few weeks and have heard horror stories about amnesia from the Versed, also about inadequate pain management.

Any other benzos being given IV, such as Valium?

thanks

Megan
RN, BSN, disabled; back in school for MT (ASCP)
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No. 14
Old Sep 11, 2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MeganNY View Post
Does anyone know if Drs are open to an alternative to Versed? I am having a c-scope in a few weeks and have heard horror stories about amnesia from the Versed, also about inadequate pain management.

Any other benzos being given IV, such as Valium?

(ASCP)
Valium and demerol was the combo used the first time I was sedated for the procedure.

(I had the procedure done several times prior, with no sedation whatsoever....back in the old days)

Several problems. As most nurses know, demerol is now rarely used d/t the wellknown issues with it. Valium IV can be very irritating to the vein and there was some phlebitis for about 7-10 days after, each time it was used. It also tends to leave the patient more heavily sedated and for longer than versed does. This decreases pt turnover, and means the GI has to stay longer.

However, for my last two endos, my GI used diprivan (Propofol). While mildly irritating to the vein, it wasn't as problematic as IV valium. It works much faster than traditional concious sedation, it kept me completely out, and wears off rapidly with NO after effects (I get HAs from versed). Within 30 minutes after the endo, I felt completely sober.

It does have to be given with anesthesia personnel (CRNA or anesthesiologist) present. Which means same places cannot safely give it. While propofol has an excellent safety record, if the patient goes bad, there needs to be someone that can intubate if necessary. Unlike most narcs/seds, there are NO antidotes to it other than time.
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No. 15
from MeganNY
Old Sep 14, 2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by caroladybelle View Post
Valium and demerol was the combo used the first time I was sedated for the procedure.

(I had the procedure done several times prior, with no sedation whatsoever....back in the old days)

Several problems. As most nurses know, demerol is now rarely used d/t the wellknown issues with it. Valium IV can be very irritating to the vein and there was some phlebitis for about 7-10 days after, each time it was used. It also tends to leave the patient more heavily sedated and for longer than versed does. This decreases pt turnover, and means the GI has to stay longer.

However, for my last two endos, my GI used diprivan (Propofol). While mildly irritating to the vein, it wasn't as problematic as IV valium. It works much faster than traditional concious sedation, it kept me completely out, and wears off rapidly with NO after effects (I get HAs from versed). Within 30 minutes after the endo, I felt completely sober.

It does have to be given with anesthesia personnel (CRNA or anesthesiologist) present. Which means same places cannot safely give it. While propofol has an excellent safety record, if the patient goes bad, there needs to be someone that can intubate if necessary. Unlike most narcs/seds, there are NO antidotes to it other than time.
How about IM Valium? The GI I was referred to doesn't use an anesthesiologist.

I definiately don't want Versed tho.

Thanks
megan
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No. 16
Old Sep 15, 2007, 02:51 PM

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I was being treated with cipro for an UTI for 9 days on the tenth I woke up with LUQ pain, I def had rebound tenderness! They did an x-ray then sent me to get an MRI, I was an immediatel admit. I had an abcess the size of a tennis ball, 7cm. I was treated with cipro, levoquin and flagel via a subclavian line for 6 days. I had my colonoscopy day b4 yesterday, I do not remember a thing except being told to roll over. I am home today but have a pain in my chest that will not go away feels like a poke and a sore knee joint (she said this is common with levoquin) I was diagnosed with diverticulitis. My overall experience was no pain with the colonoscopy but the golytely was horrible. I will def have more empathy when I bring in that jug!
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No. 17
from truern
Old Sep 15, 2007, 06:08 PM

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Scheduled for an EGD and colonoscopy on the 3rd....I'm paying extra for propofol vs versed and demerol. I want to be OUT!!

Oh, and I'm taking the pills instead of GoLytely. Anybody else take them??
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No. 18
Old Sep 16, 2007, 07:39 PM

Default Re: My 1st colonoscopy - draping & pain questions
Originally Posted by MeganNY View Post
How about IM Valium? The GI I was referred to doesn't use an anesthesiologist.
Very few places use valium IM.

But as a general rule with meds, if a med is very irritating as an IV drug, it is much more so given IM/SQ, potentially necrosing.

Think about the other major irritants/vesicants. Because of the nature of blood vessels vs skin/muscle/fat tissue, there are many drugs that can be given safely IV, that if they extravasate into tissue, can seriously damage tissue (example of vesicant chemo, dopamine, dilantin, potassium).

Chances are if it hurts IV, you will have even more serious problems with the IM/SC.
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No. 19
from MeganNY
Old Sep 17, 2007, 02:22 PM

Default Re: My 1st colonoscopy - draping & pain questions
Originally Posted by caroladybelle View Post
Very few places use valium IM.

But as a general rule with meds, if a med is very irritating as an IV drug, it is much more so given IM/SQ, potentially necrosing.

Think about the other major irritants/vesicants. Because of the nature of blood vessels vs skin/muscle/fat tissue, there are many drugs that can be given safely IV, that if they extravasate into tissue, can seriously damage tissue (example of vesicant chemo, dopamine, dilantin, potassium).

Chances are if it hurts IV, you will have even more serious problems with the IM/SC.
You're right. But I am grasping at straws here because I do not want Versed! Thanks

megan
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